ok this is a serious suggestion needing approved.

ok well, to start off their are ways to fake vouche, NO I WILL NOT TELL ANYONE BUT A MOD/orADMIN how to. idk if this has happened before or not.

please MOD/ADMIN pm me your msn for safety and i will verify this "fake vouches"

but what their needs to be is some sorta section when you click on the "sythe user" like when you put your mouse over it and it says, private message, or view post by "sythe user". you need to add a spot for "vouche for sythe user" to where only other sythe users can be able to post a vouche their and not the "sythe user" that they're vouching for.

please i will explain alot more to a MOD/ADMIN if this does not provide enough information.

something needs to be done about this, FAST!

i will not ADD your MSN unless you have pmed me it for safety of this "fake vouching"

thanks and please respon quickly!

tibur - cleaning up the streets of www.sythe.org!

 

This isnt really a suggestion just pm a admin about this and they will help you

 

but what their needs to be is some sorta section when you click on the "sythe user" like when you put your mouse over it and it says, private message, or view post by "sythe user". you need to add a spot for "vouche for sythe user" to where only other sythe users can be able to post a vouche their and not the "sythe user" that they're vouching for.


yes this is my suggestion, thanks for your help again lol

 

Im not sure what ur trying to get at

atm the A and B do a transaction then if all goes well A vouches for B and B vouches for A

?

 

yes but their is more to it i can not explain to your, please re-read it. theirs more information to it but only MOD/ADMIN will be able to get it by them pming their msn.

 

You're not really making any sense.

There are many ways to fake vouch: self-vouching, false forum links, etc. But there's no way to stop people from creating accounts to vouch for themselves, other than to check the IP's. Furthermore, if we added a mod that required a post ID, members could easily mis-quote posts, or take vouches from someone else's thread.

The only way to guard against fake vouches is to check them manually. It is each trader's responsibility to check the vouches of the person they're trading with, and to decide for themselves whether they are legitimate.

 

Well said.

Why is this necessary? It really has no usefulness, because then they can become hidden, and you can't carry them around to your Threads.

What are you talking about? If one person trades with another, then they will most likely Vouch each other on said thread for services performed, or items sold. It's not really THAT DIFFICULT to click a little box, and check if the Vouch is legitimate, as stated by Sin.

It's a suggestion that's really unnecessary, and somewhat 'like' a Vouch Forum, because it would be an alternative place for others to place a Vouch. It's in the DO NOT SUGGEST LIST, as located in this Thread:
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=183249

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well ok deny this then..your own good. is being gone but i can still show you how it is done, pm me your msn and you can come up with your own way to do this since im not making perfectly good sence for all of you..

thanks for all your...somewhat help.. w.e

tibur

 

I actually think I understand what you're saying, but you just didn't articulate your suggestion very well. Also, I'm not sure if the idea would actually work.

I think what he is trying to say is to implement a vouch system in Sythe where one can click on a users profile, pull up the "vouch section" and write an official, recorded vouch for the user. This way you can't just place quote tags around something you typed and claim is as a vouch from another user. Vouchs can still be faked however, because multiple accounts can be made, friends can vouch for a trade that never happened, etc.

So I'm not really sure if this solves the REAL problem with fake vouches, it just makes it seem official, when there are still ways of bypassing the system.

 

finally someone gets where im exactly going, no it will not fix 100$ of it but it will for sure get alot of them fakes gone

thanks alot tibur

 

A quote that is legit looks like this:

As you can see, you can easily click the little button that will take you to the source of the thread. There, you can check the source and look over the thread to see if it really happened.

These vouches are fake:

As you can see, there is no user who posted it, and no link to the original post. Clearly a fake.

Again, there is no link to the original. There may be a user who posted it, but there is no validation.

This is one of the tricky ones. It looks just like a real quote, but when you follow the link it is far from a vouch, it's an invalid link.

So yeah, there are many ways that a vouch can be faked, and they're all easy to see through.

 

We already knew exactly what he was talking about, but we were saying that nothing is holding back other Users to create Accounts using Proxies and self-vouching themselves. In doing this, they could make as many Vouches as they want, instead of actually having to post in a thread. That actually makes things MUCH WORSE, because a user could vouch himself 100 times undetected.

And when it's clearly a fake, what's the problem now? If you can see that it's fake, then they're obviously trying to scam, or they just don't know how to quote others.
In any event, it's quite apparently whether someone's Vouches are valid or not. All you need to do is make a few simple clicks. No big deal.

 

That's what I said...?

 

I dont get it either.

 

The system you've suggested is much like iTrader, and we've said we're not adding that add-on to the site for obvious proxy pushing reasons.

You should be able to determine if someone is self vouching though via the amount of 1 post accounts that have vouched that person >_>

 

This system has been requested so many times, I feel everything with the current system is working fine.
This would only make things complicated and put more pressure on the moderators

 

The vouching system is good enough as it is.