God?

Quoted from godandscience.org.......

The atheist distorts the biblical definition of omnipotence in order to "prove" that God cannot exist. Contrary to their claims, omnipotence does not include the ability to do things that are, by definition, impossible. Neither does omnipotence include the ability to fail. By defining omnipotence as requiring one to have the ability to fail, atheists have defined omnipotence as being impossible. Of course, an omnipotent God would never fail.

These kinds of arguments are clearly illogical and even silly, although they are commonly used by inexperienced atheists. Most intelligent atheists have dropped these kinds of arguments long ago.

No. That was gods rule set for the people that lived back then. Once Jesus came he set the new rule standard.

 

sigh dont you get it you go to hell because your a sinner and got is holy and pure and just he cant be with sin. but god forgave me of my sins and he is now the lord and saver of my life.no one is worthy to go to heaven. no one. everyone deserves to go to hell. myself included but god gives eternal life as a gift we have to takke it. dude he loves you more than you can imagine thats why he sent jesus his son to die on the cross for you.and jesus rose on the third day. no1 talks you in or out of christanity and if decide o there right i guess il be a christain then thats nothing.and the thing is everything around you including you is proof of god

 

That was not my intention. I was not trying to prove anything, rather get your opinion, which you have failed to provide it seems as you just quoted a website.

They are logically impossible, not by definition.

Thats part of the definition of omnipotence. I do not disagree.

Wait. What? The definition is the same for everyone, just with different ways of understanding it. Plus, from a logical point of view omnipotence is impossible. You can also argue that God can do anything, even the logically impossible, but that is a bad argument in my opinion. You could also say that omnipotence is the ability to do anything that is conceivable, which I assume would be most believer's chose of answering this dilemma.

Agreed.

 

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”

Yes, it is a quote.

 

Why would such a great god make such unjust, homophobic, and sexist rules, even if it WAS a long time ago? Killing a gay 2000 years ago is no more just than killing a gay today.

 

Lol.... Everything around us means shit.... It was created by natural processes. Can people get real arguments? The same ones get very boring.

 

explain what "natural process" created us. im dieing to hear it

 

Ummm... Evolution.........

 

if god loves us so much why are people suffering, starving, and getting tortured? I mean seriously that's a load of crap

 

Quite.

 

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?”

Yes, it is a quote.

 

evolution is a flawed theory. we star as as little fish.were the water come from hmmmm? evolution says we go from little fish to monkeys to people.well were did the fish get made from how did that happen.



fail

 

god loving us dosnt mean everything is honky dorey and perfect.the murder the tourture the rape is sin.

 

You obviously do not know what your talking about. I suggest reading this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution. Evolution is a theory accepted as right, by almost everyone.

 

there being nothing cant randomly 1 day start being something its not like the universe just poped out of nothing ness.thats a lood of crap

 

Universe was created by the big bang. The place that holds universes either has always been and is infinite or there is an infinite regress of places that hold other places. I would think the ladder is correct. That means, everything has always been here... Just... In different forms.

 

Sooo...God creating it...makes MORE sense? The difference between science and faith is that faith is trying to tell a story and science is trying to figure out why things are in the most logical fashion.

So if God loves us...WHY do people suffer? He's able to help them so why doesn't he? Seems pretty cruel to me.

 

god does help people you go around saying that god doesnt exist.so if he helps you you dont say its u just say its just random or some bull

 

Explain to me a situation where a christian, baptized baby is born into starvation and dies from lack of food because there is none. Did God help him?

And how has God helped you?

 

God has never helped me.