The Existence of God

Hypothetically, yes. Pigs could fly; Just as psychic pink ravens could exist, or there could be a teapot orbitting saturn right now (look up Russel's Teapot for the basis of this argument).

Lack of evidence does not demonstrate lack of existence. We don't have evidence of any sea-creature larger than the blue whale (correct me if I'm wrong, but still heed the argument), but that doesn't mean one doesn't exist somewhere in the depths of the ocean.

The way I see it, if people aren't smart enough to understand the words I use to express my thoughts, then they aren't smart enough to understand the argument. Commanding a wide range of vocabulary is vital to being a good debater. As for just average talking, I prefer to use a wide range of vocabulary anyway, because it allows me to express myself more. If people don't understand me in that case, I then proceed to explain what the words they don't understand mean (if I can be bothered).

We do not know exactly where the earth came from. We don't know how the universe came to be. We theorize based on inconclusive evidence and speculate about these matters, and doing such is far better than simply saying "I don't know, therefore God must have done it!" What you are providing is merely an argument from ignorance, and therefore is null in a rational debate.

You're expressing a view shared by some evolutionists and atheists, but that view is not shared by all. People who believe in the "Big Bang" theory do not believe everything came from a single atom, as such is impossible and breaks the Law of Conservation of Mass, which states that no matter can be created or destroyed, only modified. Big Bang theorists believe that the Big Bang was caused by large amounts of highly dense matter collapsing in on itself, not a single atom exploding. I'm not sure myself of the physics involved in the big bang theory, but if I were to show them in my post, it would likely be a very large and tedious post to read.

The Theory of Evolution has substancial evidence to support it, such as the experiment performed by a group of scientists which involved passing an electric current through seawater. Within a few month, strands of things such as protein and amino acids were produced. If the experiment were to say, go on for millions of years, I would hypothesize that more than just a bit of protein would be produced as a result. Still, the experiment hasn't gone on for millions of years, and likely never will, so I won't drag on with that argument. See: the Prebiotic Soup experiment.

A scientific theory has substancial evidence to support it before it is considered a theory. Remember that before you go to place an argument for or against one.

 

I concur, Swan. Your arguments are sound and swift; a brilliant debater you are. It is easier to say, though, that while the existence of God is possible, it is improbable - highly so. Is this what people call atheism? There is a rather skewed vision of atheism - jaded, if you will - and I am left wondering what atheists are in an extended and expansive version, not the simple "People that don't believe in God" stigma that's been passed around.

 

not likely...

 

I agree, improbable as the idea of a god, gods or deity is, there is still a chance of one or more existing. The chance of it, mind, is unknown and therefore it is almost impossible to speculate.

 

god isnt real im telling u

 

God exist, he is there, everywhere, you aren't conscious because you've never had the chance to know him.

Hello, I am as all of you, a son of God (my name is from the least of importance), and the reason why I'm writing is to share my knowledge and experience with those who are willing.

Does God exist? Yes
Any Proof? Yes
What?

1.Look around you, everything that you can see, touch, feel, smell is God's creation, his creation is the proof of his existence.

2. God is there and you could feel him if you actually tried it, even if you don't try it, there is so much stuff that happens around you and that if you deeply think about it, you will realize that something stronger than you is being part of your life.
For example : You're about to steal a chocolate bar from the store in the corner of the street that has absolutely no security system, no one will know about it, you manage to steal your candy, you eat it, but suddenly, there is this "thing" that makes your candy less sweet, but why?? You were just able to steal something from that fool in the corner it should be great that you have a candy bar, but no, you feel bad because you know that someone, somewhere, isn't very proud of you and you feel ashamed of doing such thing.

There is way more proof of God's existence but lots of people has chosen the path of ignorance and because of that choice, it is hard to get them to path of God.

I have more to share with you but time is running short for me, so I should be going now.

 

God does not exist. Everything around us was never created. It has always been, the matter that makes it up at least. There is scientific evidence to back up the claim that matter can not be destroyed or created.

The feeling that you feel is a natural human feeling that evolved with us as we evolved. Why evolution gave it to us is unknown to me but there was a reason.

 

so your telling me a atom exploded and made humans, trees , earth flowers, and air and everything else we should be even grateful to have?
im sorry but i dont see that happening

there are scientists that believe in god and our trying to prove there is one.
look em up.
youll be surprised what they found may even repent because of it

 

I am not saying an atom exploded and formed everything.

The big bang was started because there was an almost infinitely dense bit of matter, that exploded due to some unknown force which could be another universe hitting this dense piece of matter. The explosion is what the big bang is. Slowly planets and stars started forming just like they do now a days. At one point on some planet, particles lined up correctly and life was formed basically. The universe is so huge that this not happening in billions of years is EXTREMELY unlikely. Slowly this life evolved into basically everything we have on earth today. There was no god involved in this process.

 

Alright, how can you explain miracles? Blind peoples looking, persons which scientific has found cancer whiting them living for almost a eternity, others telling what is going to happen in the future (prophets and bible), and what I'm telling isn't a joke, there is persons who have being cured from fatal disease thanks to prayer, you can find all sort of things everywhere, but yet again if people do not wish to believe and close their eyes every time that scientifics find something illogical or supernatural

Some people may call all this coincidence, others would say that I'm crazy, but all I have to say is that God is there, and he is watching us.

On a side note, I would like to clear something up, the bible clearly states that when God came upon the earth, he saw disorder, than in 6 days, he was able to put everything in order and in the 7th day he relax and etc etc etc, I underlined saw because when he came here, the bible states that there was already something in the earth (dinosaurs, cave men etc) so, the scientific theory of evolution is partly right, it just gets wrong at the human part, because the human specie was made by God.

 

Thats not right...

http://www.biblija.net/biblija.cgi?Bible=Bible&m=Gn+1&id32=1&pos=0&set=3&l=en

 

Why does god not heal amputees? Every other 'miracle' is something that can be explained by science or other means, but when the only (currently known) way for limbs to spontaneously regrow is divine intervention, amputees have never had their limbs regrown.

So, is God omnipotent?

I would also like you to watch this:

 

I wouldn't say that infinitely dense matter exploded, but rather imploded on itself. The denser an object is, the more gravity it has. What caused the "explosion" thereafter we can only speculate about, such as chemical reactions (such as those in a star such as our sun).

 

..... You people just don't get it, do you? THERE IS NO PROOF! While God may exist, it's starting to tick me off that you people say "GOD EXISTS! I HAVE PROOF! HOW DID THE EARTH COME TO BE?!11!11" and generally make yourself look stupid. Grammatically, you shouldn't answer a question with another question; it's just common sense.

I ask that anyone else that responds to this thread starts thinking before writing. If you say anything like the above - that God MUST exist while giving no real evidence (no, "something must of created the universe" is NOT evidence, fool!), I will degrade you in a matter of seconds and then send you on your way home with the intelligent people notified of your lack of brain.

I recommend watching "The Atheist Experience", and then come back to answer any questions based on belief and whatever else. It's sort of sad to know how much stupidity there is in the world.

Also, to the moron that said something about chocolate, it's called a conscience.

Pierre Volturi Edit: Le gasp! I just read the pinned topics (yes, overdue, perhaps) and discovered that this is said in a more drawn out way. Why do people not conform with the rules, considering that they're using this forum as a medium to discuss several issues? I have also discovered that "Sythe" the user, and creator of this forum, is incredibly intelligent. His arguments make sense, and they are the epitome of awesomeness. I have nothing else to say here, but please do read the pinned topic; don't know what it's called and don't particularly care - just read them all.

 

There is no definant proof of god and using examples like blind people magically being able to see is stupid, as that kind of stuff doesn not happen often enough to have merit. The bible constantly contradicts itself leading you to question anything in it whether it be an intepretation or not. So far science has explained things a lot better and actually has a decent idea of how the universe was formed, as with religion it only explains our existance and not that of other universes.

 

Prayer have been proven scientifically to not do ANYTHING. Do you have proof god created humans? No you do not. The bible is a book full of lies written by humans.

O fa. It blew a ton of shit out ward.... What I posted is just something I saw on a show... Just like throwing that stuff in...

 

How does science know that prayer does nothing? Show me the test procedure/results. If I am not mistaken, Genesis I lists the order of creation exactly.

Ive been reading alot about Padre Pio and stigmata, and his incorrupt body. How does science explain stigmata? And incorrupt bodies?

NOTE: I am not trying to be a smart ass, or a know-it-all; sorry if I come off that way. I am simply asking questions as I hope to gain some knowledge on these subjects. Please do not flame me, as I am not intending to act like I know everything, or even anything.

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12082681/
http://www.shortnews.com/start.cfm?id=53619
http://www.thinkingchristian.net/C278308471/E20050716140852/index.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/03/31/MNG0VI1BCH1.DTL&hw=heart&sn=007&sc=330
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=47552

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stigmata

Honestly, no idea. Regardless, there isn't any proof connecting those to the supernatural

 

It was basically:

People were asked to pray for certain sick people.

Then they monitored those people and sick people who were not getting prayers.

Result:

The prayer did absolutely nothing in making the one group get better faster or better than the other group. This experiment has been done many times I know... And thats the results each one has gotten.

 

The chances are, there is no god. - Though there is no proof.

Most people follow religion because they're brought up with it. Muslim/Christian/Hindu. over 90% Would've been brought up as a child to follow this religion. In My eyes brainwashed


i think putting religion on anybody under the age of twelve, who wont really understand it properly or be able to accept the concepts of it is really naive.