The Existence of God

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Does God Exist?

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  1. Unread #3861 - Mar 20, 2009 at 10:45 AM
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    x is comforting does not imply that x is true. Your question/statement is invalid.

    Why?

    Actually, we have large reason to believe that emotions are created by the reactions of chemicals mixing in the brain. There is a lot more factual evidence to back that up than there is of a God and a mystical entity called a soul.

    Only a theory? AHAHA.

    Do you even know what a theory is? Are you using the common use of the word theory, or the scientific use? Scientific theories are not classified as theory until they have large (indeed, copious) amounts of coherent evidence to back them up. A scientific theory is not what you know as a "theory".

    As stated on Dictionary.com:
    A definition of the word: "coherent", also from Dictionary.com:
    More to the point, there is more fact behind scientific theory than disregarding all fact in the first place and saying "I don't know therefore God did it!" Surely you realise that such a statement is clearly irrational! Or perhaps you've not looked in to the subject and just spat out what you've been told by countless others who are unlearned in this matter in the first place; such activity is also irrational and therefore your argument is null in a rational debate such as this.

    I believe in the Theory of Evolution because it has fact behind it - the concept of a God (note: not fact and not even theory) has absolutely no fact behind it, and the only thing which can back it up is a book written by man and no-one else but man. I'm sorry if I think you're just a tad ridiculous for believing in a God because of that, with nothing but a storybook to go by as a backbone for your entire belief system.

    Think your arguments through, otherwise you won't get far in this debate.
     
  3. Unread #3862 - Mar 21, 2009 at 3:34 AM
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    Debate? This is turning into a bashing thread. I admit, I love crushing people through debates, as physical violence leaves too much evidence, but really...

    Does it matter? People have their own beliefs; those that praise and honor logic are generally the atheists, while the ignorant believe in God. I, personally, don't believe in God - nor a higher power.

    I will repeat this again: Does it matter. Yes, that is a statement. A rhetorical question. Logic in an awesome form of words.

    I realize I'm babbling, so I'll just say this: God doesn't exist, but don't bash the people that have hope - some people just need justification to do some rather questionable things.

    I just remembered something; that makes me awesome! Do tell me my friends and my not friends (enemies? No, surely not!), why do you believe in God? Please answer, and use logical arguments. If you say something along the lines of "It's obvious God exists! I mean, who else could of created the universe?" I will slap you down with vigor usually reserved for playing games, and perhaps having sex. The reason I want to know is fairly simple: What makes you come to such illogical assumptions?

    Is it because you need to believe in something after death?
    Is it because it's all you've known and been taught?
    Is it just because you're stupid and have no intelligence whatsoever?

    I really don't care, and I'm not bagging you or your religion out. I just want to know why.
     
  5. Unread #3863 - Mar 21, 2009 at 7:13 AM
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    Though I am an Atheist, I am wondering how you came to that conclusion. You are asserting a negative argument; that God doesn't exist. However logic, mind you, dictates that you cannot provide evidence for the non-existence of an entity, because to provide evidence for something is to admit its existence in the first place.

    The only rational logical standpoint an Atheist can take is that one does not know, therefore one shall not jump to conclusions. To say that God does not exist is irrational for the reason beforementioned, and to say God exists requires coherent evidence to back up one's claim. No believer in this thread has provided evidence for their beliefs, and some Atheists have just said "God doesn't exist," both views are irrational.
     
  7. Unread #3864 - Mar 21, 2009 at 7:20 AM
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    Well Your parents and had sex and made you.
    So there parents Had it, then there parents, etc so that means there was 2 people on earth who had sex. How where they here, aliens made them? Who made the aliens then? Who made them? Must be someone or something. Point proven :)
     
  9. Unread #3865 - Mar 21, 2009 at 8:31 AM
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    Life formed naturally on earth and every other planet... Then it slowly evolved into more complex forms of life... What made them? The natural world basically.
     
  11. Unread #3866 - Mar 21, 2009 at 11:36 AM
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    The Existence of God

    well, not to get into this debate to much, as i am just skimming. i have athiest friends, and christian friends. myself being christian, i think that there is a god, if im wrong, im alright with it. praying, doing the right thing etc. just to turn out there isnt a god wouldnt bother me,

    but my main conclusion to evolution is the monkeys or primates or w/e had to come from something. nothing just magically appears from the "natural world" there had to be a begining of some type, be it from our christian god, or buddah or any of that. in my opinion you must believe in something, or you will fall for anything. even if it means being christian, budist, anything. im not saying you should go seek a religion, but think more on the faith side, not automatically site with evolution just because there is "evidence" which can easily be disputed.


    well, after all that ramblin, im done.

    everyone enjoy, and dont bash other people because they do/dont believe. what is the point in being enemys because we dont believe in the same thing. well byee
     
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    No matter how long you fight and argue with your belief's people are still going to believe in god and then others won't. If you ask me what I think about the whole god issue. I think that religion was created to explain the world so people would understand it. Then advanced science came along...realisticly explaining it. So now we should drop the concept of religion thanks to science but some people still choose not to.
     
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    Generally, when there is no evidence, you would think that such a thing would not exist. The only reason why it's put into question is because some fool wrote a book two thousand years ago and the sheep of the world followed it for generations. Never been good at explaining - not gonna learn now.

    Also, please note, you do not have to use such 'big' words to explain an argument. It is subtle degradation and nothing more; just because I can understand what you are saying doesn't mean others can.
     
  17. Unread #3869 - Mar 21, 2009 at 8:28 PM
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    i agree with teamvolturi i mean thers no proof sure stuff may happen at random we may call them miracles but i call them luck or coincedences
     
  19. Unread #3870 - Mar 21, 2009 at 8:33 PM
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    I'd love to be a part of one of the largest threads on sythe, so here's my viewpoints.

    I'd love to think a God exists, which is part of the religion which I practice very lightly, but it's difficult at times. There are 2 main points for my reasoning. The main point is the lack of factual evidence. There is one piece of evidence which keeps my hopes up, and that's the Shroud of Turin. The Shroud of Turin is supposedly the burial cloth which Jesus was wrapped in. The cloth has imprints of Jesus' body and blood. There have been many studies calculated which cannot evaluate the means behind the Shroud (how the imprint got on the Shroud), all to no avail. Scientists honestly have no idea how it came.

    The second point is the everyday occurrences in the world such as aids, death and robbery. Why does God incorporate these into our world? This is a question I always ask myself, and find myself pondering the reasoning behind it. Cancer, hiv, aids, murder, death, anger, rage, etc. They all lead me to believe there is no God. I'm not sure if he exists or not, but I'd like to believe that.
     
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    The evidence behind evolution can not be easily disputed or it would have been a long time ago. The place we live was never made. It has always been and always will be. Life formed from a natural world when partials lined up right and life was made......
     
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    Sometimes i want to believe and sometimes i don't.
     
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    There is no god.

    If there is please give me some proof like pictures? evidence not a book.

    Scientest's have proven we have evloved from single celled orgnisem to a fish to a mammle to ape to cave man to now
     
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    First, in regards to my English: I speak online in the way that I speak in real life - if people don't understand my argument because of the words I choose to use, then perhaps they should spend some time learning the words. They are by no means complex.

    As for the rest of your post, no evidence does not mean the non-existence of something, it simply means there is no evidence. As I said, you can not provide evidence for the non-existence of an entity, therefore you cannot say rationally that God does not exist. Thus, the burden of proof is upon the believer who states that God does exist, not the Atheist who asks for evidence.

    The Atheist who says that God does not exist is just as irrational as the believer who claims God to be real without providing substantial evidence to back up his claim.
     
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    Part of me does and doesn't...

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    i'm really not sure if god exists or not. i'm not religious but when i just stop and think about how existence even came to be, it really makes me wonder about this stuff. btw the big bang may be the start of the universe but its not the start of existence so that is not what i'm talking about here.
     
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    I believe in god.
    As i am a christian.

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  35. Unread #3878 - Mar 22, 2009 at 12:46 AM
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    If we're going off what you said, then hypothetically, we can say that pigs fly. Has the same formula with different values; if you're saying that "No evidence does not mean the non-existence of something, it simply means there is no evidence", then flying pigs is quite possible.

    Also, in regards to your speech, while I agree with your argument, it'd make life easier for those that wish to understand what you're saying. Toning it down on forums is fairly simple - so long as you think about what you're saying. Similar to summarizing, really. If you're going to ask something similar to "Why do I have to stupefy myself for others?", the answer is you don't. It's merely a suggestion because, in reality, talking (or typing, for that matter) is merely a means of communication. Thus, if some people you're speaking to can't understand, there is no point in talking (or, again, typing).
     
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    With god all things are possible

    where do you think this earth came from?
    The air?
    uh no.
    Came from god he made it all
    he gave his only begotten son to.

    wonder why everything is beautiful?
    and please quit spamming my in box.
    thanks
     
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    You can't really argue where things came from because Creationists agree that God is eternal, but then the Evolutionists are going to be where did he come from. So it's this, either Everything was made from God, or an atom holding the universe exploded and started the universe. For an Evolutionist, Earth is just a coincidence and life is just a coincidence. I take the side of Creationism though. Biblical prophecy, spirits (I've experienced myself), and I just can't believe that life as complex is a coincidence. Then again it's hard to believe the Creationist point of view, they both are hard, but I choose Creationism.
     
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