The Crisis in the Middle East

I feel extremely compassionate towards the palestinian civilians, and I almost cried seeing those photos, but the truth is, Hamas is securing terrible futures and deaths for Palestinian children. Hamas uses civilians as shields, knowing Israel is not barbaric enough to kill them. Hamas only wants one thing: Kill as many israeli's as they can before they die, and essentially get Israel. Talking it out will not work, the only way to stop Hamas would be to eliminate them, and Israel tries its hardest not to harm civilians. Hamas has fired thousands of rockets at israel, even when they were in a TREATY. Now that Hamas REFUSED to re instill the treaty, Israel's only choice is to 1. Eliminate Hamas, or 2. Slowly be destroyed, rocket by rocket.



Im sick of all this fucking bullshit i hear about israel being Barbaric. Hamas is probably the most barbaric organization in the world. Have you seen videos of what palestinians do to Israelis on their territory? Hamas recently had a public rally impersonating a 22 year old prisoner of war. They dressed up as him and pretended to be begging for mercy. The prisoner, in fact, was the same person who wrote the short story when he was 10 years old, representing palestinians and israelis living in peace and harmony. If you want to see it, it is availible on the internet. HAMAS is the cause for all those 600 civilian deaths.

Ill leave you with a quote i read,

"The war will end when Hamas loves its people more then it hates Israel."

 

Actually, the majority of the media is against Israel.'



Edit: why is nobody posting?

 

How is the majority of media against Israel? Explain.

 

Watch some news stations discussing Israel. Majority are against Israel.


Also, Heres something i wanna share.
I think it is quite clear what is happening here. Israel tries its very best not to hurt the palestinian children and civilians. After Hamas refused to renew the expired treaty between Israel and them, Israel had to either attack, or be destroyed, rocket by rocket.
Recently, Israel created a clinic near Gaza, for all injured or fleeing palestinian civilians. This clinic is completely competent, and can hold 50 patients at once. But guess what? A mere 3 patients have been treated there. Why you may ask? The answer is that Hamas will not allow the civilians and children to go to the hospital, even if they are severely injured. Another thing. Before Israel invaded Gaza, they allowed all civilians to leave. Guess what? Very few escaped because Hamas wouldn't let them leave.

On a different topic, look what i read today:

When one of the finest young men of our community, Yoni Jesner, was killed in a suicide attack on Tel Aviv bus, his family donated his organs to save life, one of whom was a seven-year-old Palestinian girl
Yasmin Abu Ramila
who had been waiting two years for a transplant.
We care about the Palestinian future.
We care for Palestinian children.
We care about life.


The war will end when Hamas loves their children more then they hate Israel.

 

^ I agree with Ben.

If the Hamas cared about the people dieing they wouldn't continue to launch rockets at Israel. If Israel does not fight back then they will just take rocket after rocket with no end in site till hamas gets bored of blowing up there towns?

 

Listen to yourself please...


I believe that BOTH sides are wrong. Hamas is stupid for firing rockets, meanwhile Israel is stupid for bombing innocent civilians.

 

Israel is clearly not bombing innocent civilians. They are trying their best not too, but they have to continue bombing Hamas to end this. Hamas in ensuring that the civilians are bombed by not letting them leave.

 

Question 1 Why would the Palestinians accept any land taken away from them? Would you willingly give your house away to be fair... No don't think so.

Question 2 What genocide did the Arabs commit against the Jews? Last I checked Hitler was GERMAN.

Question 3 Last time Israel warned citizens of getting bombed and to leave. They left. But weren't allowed back in. So would you leave knowing you wern't allowed back in?

Question 4. How come the UN resolution that allows for people to go back to there homes is never applied in Palestine?

Question 5 What is death ratio of Palestinians to Israelis?

Question 6. What is the women and children death ratio?

Question 7. How come Palestinians aren't allowed in Palestine?

Question 8. Why is it okay for a 16 foot wall to separate homes, schools and families?

Logical Palestinians having nothing against Jews. Its when Europe showed up and colonized an established country did problems arise against Zionist theology.

George Antonious an Egyptian citizen said

The Arabs sympathize with the Jewish people in their desire to establish them selves were they will not be persecuted” he continues “They resent the Jewish settlement in Palestine only when their relief comes at the expense of Arabs. Palestine has been the home of Arabs for 1,300 years. They would naturally resist being shoved out.”
(Chicago Tribune March 31st 1935)

I'll have more questions later.

 

pretty much what i wanted to say.

 

If Israel didn't have american backing, They would be much quicker to negotiate. So technically, Israel is trying to show its military prowess, but the death of the civillians is greatly out of line.

Also, stopping aid from getting to civillians hasn't been brought up, and i believe it should be.

Also, If Israel gave up portions of its land, this wouldn't happen, causing deaths on both sides.

 

Are you kidding? theyve given lots!

 

First of all this so called "rockets" are false flag by the Israelis to start a war.


Let me tell you why..

Listen israel has the technolegy to shoot down the rockets..

the rockets are a joke they can take those rockets down in matter of seconds by firing missles. Seriously one day I hope we destroy all the Zionist [not the jews]

Btw shredd I love you, your so educated and so rite all the time

 

thank you for being so generous...
giving us a small piece of land so we can live in...as if It wasn't our land in the first place....



by the way the green land represent Palestine.. but they have colonies in it.. and Palestine is all the green land plus the yellow one

 

israel sucks

 

few corrections


the "whole land" was never "yours", there was never a palestinian state with full soveirgnity over that land, nor was there a national aspiration of the palestinians for that piece of land untill the 1920's.



what ownership do the palestinians have over the Negev desert, or the lands bought by zionist jews before 1948? Non, so you have no right to say that "it was all ours"


how is Tel-Aviv "yours" if we Zionists came and built it from scratch, and made that piece of god-forsaken desert bloom, actually on second thoguht i can understand your greed- we build a city out of nothing and then you claim that "this whole area was mine once" so you can take the city we built.

of course i dont expect anything else from you.


now...

Israel has in the past offered palestinians 91% of the West bank, and Gaza, so they can have a state of their own, they responded to this with their second intifada.

recently, prime Minister Ehud olmert suggested land exchanges were israel gets to keep it's larger settlements in the WB, but palestinians get the same amount of land in return.


if palestinians had any desire for peace they would accept these offers

 

they wouldnt, the partition plan of 1947 was fair and only given lands owned by jews, and lands owned by the british mandate ti the jewish state, arabs got to keep the mixed population cities and their cities (of course it changed in 1948 where they declared a war of annahilation against the israelis)

ever heard of the Hebron Massacre of 1929? ever heard of Hajj Amin al Husseini, the grand mufti of jerusalem, one of the most powerful palestinians leaders at the time, who was one of the worst Nazi collaborators.

give example to when that happened?

also in the millitary operation in Gaza people were warned to leave because their homes were used as ammo storages, or rockets were fired from them, it's their choice if they want to leave or not, but dont expect US to hold fire if choose to be sitting ducks in places that we need to attack for self defence.

one of the terms of that ressolution is that the refugees will live in peace with their neighbours.

i expect you to have the basic honestly to realize that they wont live in peace with us and instead prefer to start another civil war and try to throw us to the sea like they tried in 1948

much higher palestinian death toll

many women and children casualties, for the following reasons-

1. deliberate Hamas policies, using civillians as human shields
2. the fact that fighting takes place in urban areas
3. reallistic-looking toy guns being very widespread among palestinian kids (i dont blame them for playing these, but it can easily cause a soldier to panic and shoot)
4. human errors

ask the government of egypt why it doesnt allow palestinians into Gaza

if, by "palestine", you mean Israel, scroll back to answer #4

years of attacks by suicide bombers who attacked buses, restaurants, malls, schools, and other "Zionist Strongholds"

the west bank settlements make the wall construction complicated, and yeah, i agree that in certain cases it was made in a flawed way, and in some cases strategic considerations were put above the feelings of the palestinian people.

but the security barrier is still there for a good reason

you're funny, when was palestine an established country?

i love palestinian Mythology by the way, i heard this remarkable fairy-tale once, about the "state of palestine" having a long dynasty of kings and a strong national and ethnic connection to this land.

of course, i found these stories to be nothing but fairy tales, when i read contemporary testimonies from the 19th century, describing the "holy land" as an EMPTY WASTELAND

 

you can imagine a bear (israel) and a squirrel (gaza)

the squirrel keeps throwing little rocks at the bear which is trying to sleep.
someday that bear is going to get mighty pissed and squish the squirrel..

thats exactly whats happening..


theres a lesson to be learned.. if the country next to yours has a kick ass war machine which gives no mercy... do NOT pester it with rockets

 

The only thing about your post that is correct is the part about the bear and a squirrel. Israel uses the theory that;
A) They attacked us.
B) They have one of our captives.

Both of which result in hundreds of Palestinian deaths. The UN refuses to make a stand against Israel's killings.

 

Fuck It.
If They Wanna Kill Themselves Off Let Them.
Their Own Problem.

 

well then, please offer another solution against the Hamas attacks

as you see, targetted airstrikes against these rockets have failed, especially seeing that the Hamas started using timed detonators for these things (so that the airstrike will only destroy the rocket launched)

and clearly, if the people of Gaza support this, they voted for Hamas, knowing it will continue these attacks.


so please tell me how in the heck are we supposed to rspond when a quarter-million of our citizens (now even more) are under constant barrage of rockets?

the only reason we keep our death-toll that low is because these people are so fucking practiced in going into their bomb shelter that they can probably do it with their eyes closed when you wake them up at 2AM