The Existence of God

Mainly it is the female that is hurt. The guy usually ends out feeling good...

There is always a reason for what he did. He didnt kill just to kill.

Because they were a nation united. They were a whole that disobeyed.

Did you read what happened before chapeter 16?

What is the best way?

One thing that I must say is... The old testament is more like a history book. It tells us storys and the customs of back then. Anything that is repeated in the new testament should be applied to life today.

Yes, but this does not define to so called "grey areas".

I want you to give me specific examples so I can counter them.

 

That's not the case with my female friends. Where are you getting this from, anyway? What is the source of your information?

This isn't relevant to the debate at hand. It's all very well and good to defend the Bible's content, but the Bible could be the best moral guide that we have, with wonderfully flowing text and prose that never fails to delight, and it still would not be a proof of the existence of God. If you want to prove the existence of God, and presumably souls (to justify your argument against abortion), then go ahead.

 

Some of my friends. Even if someone does not seem emotionally hurt. Deep down they have a feeling of loss. Imagine you were a girl and your boyfriend was dating you for a long time. One night you decide to sleep with him. The next day he breaks up with you. You feel strong emotional pain.

I am just arguing the things that you say =p I like to argue.

 

Basically, your parents taught you that bad things are bad because you'll associate them with physical pain, instead of teaching you that bad things are bad because they ARE bad. Take name-calling for example; you've been taught it's wrong because you associate it with physical pain, not because you're aware that it may emotionally harm another human being and you should show compassion as a part of being a good person. That, is called piss-poor parenting skills.

To quote Albert Einstein himself; "If we are only good because we fear punishment and hope for reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed."

Hosea 13:16
"Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up."
- Please notice the part says infants and with child. That obviously means that God is pro-abortion, even after birth has been given, lawl.

Psalms 137:9
"How blessed will be the one who seizes and dashes your little ones Against the rock."
- Notice how it says 'little ones' here. Little ones doesn't really imply fully-grown children, does it? Even if it did imply fully-grown children, stoning them in the name of God (and to teach those little rascals a lesson!) is still sick, disgusting and beyond perverted. Definitely not what I'd call ethical.

 

I obviously knew why it was wrong. I just didn't feel like doing the right thing. Kids aren't stupid.

He was referring to destroying a nation. He was angry because they disobeyed time and time again.

If you read the WHOLE thing you would realize they were talking about a pagan nation and the bad things that they did.

 

Of course.

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Very rarely are huge numbers of people entirely united in their opinion. There are always dissidents.

Yes, but I didn't find anything to justify God's actions.

Authoritative parenting. Studies show that children raised by this method generally turn out better than, say, those raised in an authoritarian setting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parenting_styles#Authoritative_parenting.28AKA_Democratic_Parent.29

Matthew 5:17: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."

Seems like Jesus approves of the Law of the Prophets. In any case, even if Jesus did come to abolish the law, why would God give such barbaric laws to the Jews in the first place?

Yes, gray areas exist, but that doesn't refute the fact that humans have an innate sense of morality. Remember that something having negative consequences does not necessarily mean that it is false.

Well, the example I mentioned above, where God kills 14,700 people because some of them complained about killing several families. There is also 2 Samuel 24:13-15, where God kills 70,000 men with pestilence after David...performed a census. What might the justification for this be? If a king sins (by counting people), is it really moral to kill 70,000 other (presumably blameless) men?

That can happen, I suppose, but if people want to risk such emotional pain, that is their concern, and not mine.

That's fine, and now that I moved the posts to the right topic, this can continue.

 

I dont thing he is Real if he was Real why dont he make everything Perfect..

2 me its all BLAH BLAH BLAH Bullshit .. to make me join some Stupid cult.. for a future mass suicide

 

I don't know what to believe.. i don't really care to be honest.

I believe when you die, your memory gets refreshed and you come back as something else.. YES re-incarnation but im not a fat Buddha.

 

Why do you believe this?

I'm going to go and mass-murder muslims because I don't believe what they believe. Fine with you, then?

 

i do believe theres god. im not athiest nor christian, but im a muslim . I can answer all ur question but im using my psp. but for now i will say if u guys read the quran there hasnt been 1 mistake or topic that they have is not covered by evidence . we also believe in jesus but not as son of god

 

I agree with this. Although it's ludicrous to think, I'd like to believe that I can live again as something else (without any recollection). Really not as controversial as the God theory because it doesn't contradict the laws of reality and physics. It's still a bit silly though.

 

i do, every different religion thinks the person they worship is real...sometimes i wonder if were all just crazy!

 

I really couldn't care less if you believe or not...it's your loss. I wonder if you'll feel the same when you ( or your mother/father/son/daughter) are on your death-bed?

All I know is, God is real....believe what you will.

 

Ok. How do you know that there is a God?

Not every religion believes in a God. Cases in point, Buddhism/Hinduism.

How do you know that God exists?

 

i think there is a god and i hope there is would be nice 2 go 2 heaven lol

 

Why do you think that there is a God?

 

i dont know probly because of the bible not that ive actually got round to reading it YET but yeah it gives people something to believe in

 

Well, the Bible doesn't actually prove that God exists - it just tells a bunch of stories.

If it just gives people something to believe in, then aren't they believing something that is false?

 

if gos isnt real and we are all believeing in something that is false then it wouldnt really matter because if there was no god then theres no heaven and hell which means theres nothing left once your dead and if theres nothing there like your braindead then you couldnt care if you have wasted your life worrying about religion