Pollitopio Paid My 1M, but I vouched myself

Scammer's profile link: Pollitopio
Amount scammed: Langy
Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: AllStar#6645
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Proof that it's their Discord: https://imgur.com/mYN9hKZ
Explanation of the trade: 36m Osrs GP
How they scammed:
I asked Pollitopio to do the following task -

Desert Treasure (with requirements to do it)
Temple Of Ikov

Another Slice of H.A.M (with requirements to do it)
Giant Dwarf

Piety (with requirements to do it)
Black Knight Fortress
Holy Grail
Murder Mystery
One Small Favour
Shilo Village

RFD (bgloves)
Lumbridge
Nature Spirit
Bio Hazard
Start Legends Quest (Dont complete)

Lunar Diplomacy (with requirements to do it)
Fremennik Trails + Fremennik Isles
Shilo Village

Ransom and final fight in RFD. Also all skill levels required.

He is now saying he doesn't/can't do the RFD/final fight as he needs 175qp. The task states in brackets bggloves and he has agreed on Sythe that this will be done and I have paid. We have spoke on Discord about this matter had said more payment would possibly be needed for the 175qp to be done but with a bit of thought I realised I have already paid the price which he has agreed to on Sythe which is the quests above. Also Giant Dwarf and Another Slice of HAM isn't completed. Before agreeing on the job above i'm am certain it is his responsibility to ask what is needed to completee the following tasks but he is claiming this is not the case and he is refusing to complete it when I have paid. He did two extra quest for me which totals 3m but at this moment in time I have not made that payment until this is settled.

Other relevant trade screenshots: Please find attached link to some screenshots of Sythe Inbox being agreed + showing some of the task not being completed.

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What I'm wanting from this is a refund or something which is fair. Can an admin please advise on what to do with this situation.

 

I didn’t and neither did he ask. Also he didn’t send any terms of service for me to agree with or anything :/

 

Totally understand what you are saying. I could have added more detail in the task I wanted doing I am not denying that but still the task was still incomplete with giant dwarf not completed and another slice of ham and I also paid for the final fight of RFD so that is 3 incomplete tasks which he has agreed to do and what I have paid for. I understand that the final fight didn’t have the required QP but I still paid for that to be done so all I am asking is some kind of refund for the tasks which he didn’t even do and couldn’t do. No terms of conditions were agreed so a none refund once a job is started wasn’t agreed. Im not saying he has scammed me and I know as service providers details should have been more clear and agreed. But like I said I’ve still paid for quests to be completed which he has agreed to do when they haven’t been completed. I’m willing to let the RFD Bgloves go as that is my fault also but the giant dwarf and another slice of ham wasn’t an issue to do as the account has the requirements to complete. Also like to say RFD was completed up to Mithril gloves so wasn’t a fresh RFD. And I’ve used Poll before to do tasks before and he does do rather cheap prices, probably due to him having power issues.

 

@Pollitopio is refusing to be civil and come up with an agreement for a refund for final fight. As he did 2 quests which were not listed he has said the price for those extra quests are the same price as giant dwarf and a slice of ham which I am willing to agree with. Bit final fight payment he is refusing to refund and saying he does not do refunds. No tos were sent to me stating no refunds are made and he did not mention at all that refunds are not an option. He is deciding to be argumentative towards me in our discord chat. Terms of service are there for a reason so if he doesn’t provide me with ToS how am I meant to know that no refunds are an option?

 

Asked @Pollitopio for 2m refund for final fight and he is refusing and just being awkward and unreasonable and offered 1m. He’d rather go play csho apparently than sort this out.

 

Well this is what i’m dealing with.

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kind of shows what kind of person he is. Im asking 2m for final fight thats all and this can be settled.

 

Now he thinks it’s something to joke about with an say things on these lines?

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@Pirate i’m refusing to deal with this person as the comments he is choosing to write to me on discord is just inappropriate and not professional. Admittedly I am getting worked up over it and choosing to stop writing to him so can you please advise what can be done. Appreciate your time

 

I'll post all conversation screenshot im a while, so Pirate can see how bad person you are trying to take advantage from other people and trying to appear like a victim.

Uploading screenshots.

 

@Pollitopio as stated in our discord conversation I have told you to post any screenshots which you think is relevant to this dispute. Not sure what more you can really add with screenshots as I have admittedly said more details of the task should have been made and also you should have done more, and also you don’t seem to understand the whole TOS situation. You never gave me any of your TOS and didn’t state no refunds and also you did not provide a breakdown of price’s. I have asked nothing more for a refund of 2m. But you seem to just want to throw these inappropriate comments and accusations. I’ve admitted my part.

 

@Pollitopio I’m still not sure what you mean by taking advantage. I just want what I paid for which you didn’t do. If you could do it or not. I’m asking for 1m more than what you offered. Then think it’s appropriate to start saying stuff like ‘Don’t commit suicide bro’. That is not appropriate at all and not professional at all.

 

He contacted me because he ruined a client account, got 33 defence when claim MM Daero's exp reward.

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He stopped replying, a few hours later he messaged me again with this order:

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I quoted him 26m then he wanted me to do: Temple of Ikov, Fremmenik Isles, Giant Dwarf, Another Slice of HAM and Desert treasure *(including skilling in order to hit it, but he forgot to mention THIS. He just asked about QUEST, not SKILLING)* FOR EXTRA 4M (30m total). I wanted to help him to fix his faul with his client and i acepted to do it (even when i knew i was getting a shit wage)

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I asked to him if thas was an outsourced job, he replied yes (tbh i don't think his client know he outsourced the job, but yeah, thats not my problem)

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He sent me via Sythe a list of job and i got surprised cuz i received this order:

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He added skilling reqs to hit Desert Treasure w/o my permission, he asked just for QUESTING, not skilling. I got surprised and i asked to him, he added skilling requeriments w/o my permission at that moment.

Now i didn't refused the deal, even when he was adding more work for free but yeah, i don't like to be bad person and refuse to help people when needed.

But i told him that i wasnt going to do final battle or King Ransom cuz he didnt mentioned it in his order.

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He told me: 'Its simple to understand, i want BGLOVES, so the list is there what is needed to be done, made it easy' (me, like service provider when client say to me that, i understand he has all other pre-reqs to get BGLOVES apart from those that he wil order. And i think, all people will understand w/o problems cuz he was direct: 'i want b gloves, the list is all that needed to be done')

I charged him 4m extra to do: KING'S RANSOM quest and Recipe for Disaster - Defeat the Culinaromancer quest (Final fight RFD series)

And all pre-reqs and skilling needed to hit it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><< JUST EXTRA 4M <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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So, was a total of 34m. I don't know how he understood 36m but yeah, i thought was a tip cuz i was charging him SO CHEAP.

He paid his 36m.

I checked the account and i got noticed: needed Plague City quest and Biohazard quest. I charged him 3m extra for those quest cuz is annoying start a service and get noticed you need to do more than your client paid.

Also i told him he had not enough QP to do Final battle (yeah, he paid for Final Battle even when he knew he didnt had enough QP to do it. Does it makes sense? Langy, a service provider, paying for a thing that he KNEW can't get? I think is suspicious...)

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Why he didnt asked for refund at that moment?? Like i said, is very suspicious.

He didnt asked for refund and he told me: 'So after all quests, before the final fight, youre going to be short of QP? As i'll need to mention it to th e account owner, he'll have to pay more to get the required QP for final fiht. LLet me know how many quest points you have once all the quest are done then i'll speak to the account owner and i'll tell him that he'll have to pay more for final fight as more quest will need to be done to be able to do the final fight. Obviously to will get the extra GP"

Now im so confused.

Langy, you made a report cuz i didnt completed final fight even when u know that will not be COMPLETED and you said you was going to tell client that he needed to pay more GP to get BGLOVES? This is a joke?

He told me he was going to pay those 3m from Plage city and biohazad after i did it, but never paid, he forgot it > and i didnt pissed him to pay <

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I completed all his order except Giant Dwarf and Another slice of Ham cuz he owed me 3m and i calculated same price, so all good. I didnt completed final fight cuz he hasnt enough QP and he knew that.

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But like i said: why you're asking about complete RFD when you knew you can't got it???????????????????


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He started trying to force me to do all quest point needed to complete RFD (Langy, i know you thought 'i can take advantage from this venny guy cuz he charged me so cheap, so i can exploit him w/o problems')

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Langy: you agred to do final fight which I paid for.
Pollitopio: you dont have enough qp. Final battle is a single quest.
Langy: you agreed.
Pollitopio: you never showed me your qp (AND YEAH, HE NEVER SHOWED ME THAT, JUST SKILLING TABLE and he said just those is needed to get b gloves, so im thinking he tried to fool me)
Langy: should have asked.
Pollitopio: you should show me before, cuz you're client.
Langy: not my responsibility.
Pollitopio: im thinking you have all pre-reqs
Langy: i want b gloves (AND YOU TOLD ME JUST THAT YOU ORDERED WAS NEEDED, its clear that you was trying to forrce me to do it for free, to save your reputation with your client for totally free), you agreed.
Pollitopio: pay for that.
Langy: therefor before agreeing you should ask me what is needed (AND YEAH, I DID, YOU TOLD ME JUST IT WAS NEEDED)


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Langy: the customer as told me what he has paid for is what you've agreed to there for i cant say to him: oh btw, you need 175 qp and need to pay more as agreement is already made to get b gloves etc. So if he is aloud to use that against me, why Am i not aloud with you?

He's basically admitting that he was forcing me to complete the remaining QP's because your client wants the full barrow gloves and you don't want to be reported to Sythe and you also don't want to pay for it to be done, you just want me to do it for free, absolutely no matter what. that we had agreed.


To be honest I have had enough of this guy. I've already endured his attitude too much. I had not responded because I know that the moderators of this forum are fair people and I thought that it would not be necessary to respond, that justice would act without having to participate.

Yeah, Langy. You tried to fool me two times, adding more stuff than we agreed.
But you abused when you wanted to take advantage of me to do all the work for you.

You ruined your client account and i wanted to help you and all you did was treat me like I was your slave.nd you still have the nerve to complain about what I told you on Discord, you reported me on Sythe as a scammer for no reason, I offered you a refund and you turned it down. I offered you 1m cash back because you paid an extra 4m to get Kings Ransom, Final Battle and the skill requirements. I trained your defence to 65 and did Kings Ransom and you complaining about 1m refund when you paid 4M for all?

Your attitude fills the patience of anyone, nobody is forced to bear your attitude as a spoiled child.


I hope this is enough to demonstrate that Langy acted maliciously from the start.


And I repeat the question: why didn't you ask for a final battle refund when I told you that you were going to need quest point?


I think it is evident that from that moment you had in mind to take advantage of me to complete the free barrow gloves, threatening to report to Sythe, because you know that I am Venezuelan and that this is my job.


It is deplorable that there are people like you, but I hope you realize that I was not the same as you, unlike you, I wanted to help you from the beginning to clear your name with the client, but you decided to try to take advantage of me and of my workers so that we could do everything for you.

 

I take your argument as fair. But the end of the day I paid for final fight of RFD. Have you done that? No you have not. I have paid for the final fight to done. Fair enough it can’t be done. But I still paid for the final fight to be done. You can’t deny that. I paid you for the final fight of RFD. No matter how many screenshots you show of our conversation it still stands as I’ve paid for the final fight which you have not done. Otherwise what have I paid for? I have not once accused you of anything or insulted you in any way. I have not forced you to do anything. I have admitted details were to clear enough at the start of the task. If you offered me 100m I would have probably paid you. I’m not gaining anything from this at all, no profit is being made so how can you say I am trying to take advantage. I told you what I wanted, yeah okay not in enough detail. And you also didn’t professionally ask for pacific details also. Neither did you include any terms of service. You are making nothing but accusations and think I’m taking advantage or whatever you want to call it. I have not forced or tried to make you do anything. I have not been rude or abusive. I have tried to be civil and act professional. All I have asked is to come up with an agreement of a refund of the payment I made for the final fight which you have done. You gave me a price which you claim is cheap, and now you use that as a way of me taking advantage of what was actually needed to be done? I’m sorry but thats down to you, if you can’t price your jobs properly that is not my fault. You agreed to a price. I have never taken advantage of anyone. Never tried to scam or be un reasonable towards any of my customers! You have some cheek to try and make me look like the bad guy when your comments are disgustingly unprofessional. That is not arguable. Someone mentioning suicide in a comment goes to show what kind of person they are. You shouldn’t be aloud to provide services talking like that, I have IRL experiences with suicide so that comment is personal towards me. I could not care less about this matter if you wish to make comments like that. I bet other people reading this report have experienced suicide and that it’s nothing something to be used as a comment/insult. I have used you numerous times, always paid upfront and I have always been fair. You agreed that regular updates would happen but Ive had to ask every time also. I cannot force anyone to do anything so how can you say I have forced you to do something? I honestly don’t understand your argument. You didn’t have to take on the ask also. I’ve not made you do anything, simply asked you to do a job for me as I’ve used you before so thought I would use you again as previous tasks have been done at an okay standard. (Claims he has power issues) I have admittedly said we both realised to complete the final fight 175qp are needed. At first I was going to get that sorted. But in the end I decided not to go through with it and that is why I am requesting a refund.

For the sake of 2m/1m I am willing to just forget about this whole situation/report. He is not worth the time or hassle. I’ve been at fault and I have admitted that. More than what @Pollitopio has done in my eyes. He’s just throwing accusations out there trying to make out that I’ve almost bullied/forced him to do something.

 

Apologies if I am not aloud to comment here but I’ve used Langy’s services before and I have just come across this report and I am shocked what I am reading. I personally think @Pollitopio is out of under and misunderstanding Langy’s argument. Langy has never tried to over price or take advantage of me and what his vouches show none of his other customers either. He has been nothing but respectful and trustworthy. I will 100% use him again and for him to come out and admit that he could have done more and is particularly at fault is a big thing to do. More than what @Pollitopio has done. He hasn’t even admitted that he could have done more and took responsibility for the mistakes he has done. But I am no moderator so I have no say and apologies if I am not aloud to post a comment here. Please delete if not aloud.

 

When I stated that the service had not started due to electrical failures, what you did was call me a scammer and have a bad attitude.

But yeah, when i offered your refund you wanted to calculate it based on another service provider prices. Why you're asking for a refund more than you paid? I cant give you 2m if you paid 4m for Kings Ransom, RFD - Defeat the Culinaromancer and skilling requeriments. Basically im giving you 50% refund. Kings Ransom plus unlock piety is longer than defeat culinaromancer, also defence training to do Kings Ransom. And you complain about it... I dont know what do you wanna from me, i was being fair with you and you got angry and started calling me idiot and scum bag.


I think you always want things to be done your way, my refund deal was more than fair if we compare time-spending and payment relationship.



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Like I’ve repeatedly said, I cannot physically force or demand a service from @Pollitopio like he is making out that I have done, or took advantage of. I’ve continuously admitted my faults and details should have been more specific. Things got changed and the task was hit with complications. How was I trying to get free work? I paid what he asked. If he wanted more then he should say. And what I wanted was clear in my eyes so what I thought I’ve paid for isn’t what he thinks I paid for and this is the complication. Like I wanted BGloves so in my eyes that’s gettint BGloves no matter what stage. But I missed out vital information on the break down of the task. I’m a busy person dealing with other stuff so mistakes have been made. That only makes me normal. And as stated before where is his TOS? He said provide TOS before any job. Not just with me but to every customer. I got angry because you couldn’t simply understand simple things like the ToS and you think a refund is not due. And the way you speak to me is disgusting. I still stick with that and that should be a separate report in itself. Sythe shouldn’t have people like @Pollitopio talking in the manner he does. He could have acted professionally but he just ran his mouth. Yeah I got heated at times and I’ll happily be the bigger person and apologise for any offence caused if any.