The Existence of God

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Does God Exist?

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  1. Unread #3501 - Feb 12, 2009 at 2:12 PM
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    No i do not, i believe humans have just been developed by animals & animals were developed from things such as rocks,water ect.
    If i sound stupid i don't care its my opinion.
     
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    I believe in god and I voted for yes
     
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    Why not possible?

    Why do you believe in God?
     
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    I'm quite amazed myself that so many people do believe.

    Especially considering all of them have yet to provide empirical (testable and reproducable) evidence for their beliefs.
     
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    There is evidence, just not empirical evidence because if there was empirical evidence, then the first commandment would be so easy to follow because everyone would believe in God. There has to be a challenge, God wants us to have faith and find the truth to life. Examples of evidence, but not empirical are that time did not always exist, therefore matter didn't always exist because time scientifically defined as change in matter, but if time is finite then there has to be an omnipotent creator. There is no empirical evidence that goes against the fact that time is finite, making matter finite, therefore something with knowledge had to spark something. Yes, it is impossible for matter to just create itself because atoms (the smallest form of matter) can not be created, as proven by science. Biogenesis is also the biggest bull shit I've ever heard; you're seriously going to tell me that intelligent life that makes computers, space craft, complex machinery, and is made up of very complex organs and cells came from a rock and evolved into what is today? Even a lot of animals are intelligent, just not as much as humans. God said he made humans in his image and by that he made the only type of beings that can do many more things than any other animal can do on this planet.

    I find it easy though to follow the first commandment. You have a shitload of prophecies that were written in the Old Testament that came true, you have a lot of prophecies in the New Testament that have come true, but there are still some to come true. It's not an everyday normal thing that a guy tells everyone that this is going to happen in a few thousand years and it does happen. And believe me, these prophecies are not vague, they're easy to interpret.

    Another point: Right when the Christian religion was about to die because most of the Christians were being persecuted Constantine comes out of no where and converts the biggest empire in the world to become Christian because he said God gave him a vision and God told him he would win a certain battle, which I forgot, but it did happen. Because of that the Christian religion stayed alive. This really isn't good evidence, but it shows that the Religion has lasted so long because Constantine accused God of giving him a vision. Nobody goes from Greek Mythology to Monotheistic belief in one day.
     
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    I do believe in God. If there wasn't God watching over us how do you explain how everything came to be????
     
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    Me too, I am surprised that more people believe in god than those who don't. The other forum I visit (non rs related) is more than half atheist and ridicule those who believe in a god.
     
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    Well how do you know all that without hard evidence?

    We don't know that for certain, because we cannot tell what happened before the Big Bang.

    Your conclusion is not valid. If time is defined as "change in matter", then the absence of time simply means the absence of change - not the absence of matter.

    Well, this rests on your prior conclusion that the lack of change in matter means that matter doesn't exist.

    In any case, even if we accepted that matter did not exist at one point, why would it require an omnipotent being to create it? And why would that omnipotent entity also be intelligent and loving?

    Can you explain to me how a prophecy is valid if its contents are public?

    Christianity was not about to die during the reign of Constantine - that time period was one of huge clashes between the old religions and the new - between paganism and Christianity. Constantine backed Christianity because he saw that it was going to win out in the end.

    A skilled general winning a battle where he had a huge tactical advantage does not prove that God enabled his victory.
     
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    I believe in religion that doesn't believe in god, it believes that we'r aliens colony out in space. We'r being controled by aliens.
     
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    You mean scientology?
     
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    I wonder how scientology origionated....
     
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    "The way to make a million dollars is to start a religion." -- L. Ron Hubbard

    I wonder if that had anything to do with it. A third rate scifi writer makes a multibillion dollar corporation selling the "path to righteousness".
     
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    I'm open to the concept that this 'God' might actually exist but i'm not fully convinced by it
     
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    Thus, you are an Atheist. Welcome to the club! I'm sorry, we don't have a special hate to wear or a special book to read, but we have fun activities like thinking for ourselves and having our own opinions rather than following a supposed "messenger from God" (preacher/pope/evangelist/etc) as absolute truth without question.
     
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    The proper term to describe his beliefs is agnostic.
     
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    i believe in god but im not religious at all
     
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    Yes. What else could have created Man himself?
     
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    Argument ad Ignoratum - The Argument from Ignorance.

    What you are saying is this:
    "I don't know, therefore God must have done it!"

    Am I the only one who sees this as faulty logic?
     
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