Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

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Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?
  1. Unread #1 - Feb 8, 2009 at 11:38 PM
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    0k degrees, so far impossible. My ap college textbook says it is impossible due to multiple reasons, that if listed, would take up too much of my time.
    So, will 0 K ever be reached?(remember. 0C = 273K | C + 273 = K)
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    Not on a measurable scale with evidence, though I believe we can get so close that distinguishing the difference would be hard.

    Bose-Einstein Condensates...
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    There have been attempts, and I'm sure they have come extremely close, but I think its a problem in measurement. 0 is an impossible number to reach (I can't even comprehend it)
    But they could definitely distinguish how close they got.
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    It is impossible to achieve absolute zero, but they can get so close that any movement is almost unnoticable.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Feb 9, 2009 at 12:33 AM
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    what do you mean by any movement is unnoticeable
    please elaborate [=
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    At absolute zero, nothing moves.
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    Is that because it fstops the vibrations within the atom?
    therefore stopping electrons.
    however, Heisenbergs Uncertainty Principle states it is impossible to get an accurate location of an electron because when a light fragmenhts the e-, it will move. Does that mean 0K will stop light?
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    No, Heisenberg states that you cannot have both accurate velocity AND location at the same time.

    Regardless, if time stops, I would assume that light would as well.
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    Yes, that's what I meant
    momentum. If a light fragment hits an electron, you get a new velocity. It is impossible to get a reading of both location and velocity.
    Thanks for helping me formulate my ideas
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    We're getting EXTREMELY close.

    Of course, it would be absolutely impossible to remove ALL the internal energy from an object, but I think we can get close enough that we can just treat it AS IF it were absolute 0.
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    Exactly. And the obvious reason is:

    At 0K, it's EXACTLY 0, meaning there is no lower. (Or is there? *X-Files tune*o.0)

    Problem is to COOL something down, you either need something COOLER next to it, which with 0 will be imposible, concidering you'll have to have something -0 zero.

    OR you use the current method, rapidly expanding/compressing whatever chemical they use. In order to rip the atoms apart. (Individually, not the actual atom lol)

    This means Temperature will always decline by %, not by absolute amount.

    Either way, absoulte 0 can never be achieved. We can keep getting closer and closer indefinatly tough. As technology increases, and we find more effective ways of getting lower temperatures.

    If you want absolute 0 tough, your best bet is Alternate Dimensions and Black Holes. (Strange things happen thar I hurd)
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    Yes, As stated in newtons third law that matter can not be pushed or pulled all we have to do is add a simple equation 32 * 0 and add it to the speed of lifhg to slow down it .

    There will be black hoes and alternate dimensons but it will be worth it
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    ^you mean black holes LOL
    yeah but I definitely agree. It us impossible to reach 0K.
    There is no way to tell if there is something lower than that.
    hell, 0K is just a theory in itself
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    haha i dont know about this stuff im in 8th grade they dont teach us all this fancy stuff.
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    It's impossible. It's been proven. I think the closest they have gotten is (correct me if I am wrong) 3 billionths of a Kelvin away from absolute zero.
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    Yea, they have gotten really close.... I do not think they will ever do it, but saying something is impossible is a bit of a stretch... :/
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    You wouldn't be able to measure it, but you could prove it though mathematics, if you could achieve it. but from my understanding no matter could be touching it, and no energy could be there. so even the energy produced by the atom would keep it from reaching absolute zero.
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    If you don't know what something is, don't start a thread about it.

    No, it will not. Absolute zero is impossible to obtain because there will always be movement.
     
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    Will Absolute 0 Ever Be Achieved ?

    I really doubt i could be reached all matter has some type of energy and with even a 0.000000001 point amount of energy it still has it which causes heat but if you get into dark matter than a whole different story
     
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    Dark matter would still have energy.
     
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