The Existence of God

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  1. Unread #3441 - Feb 6, 2009 at 10:06 PM
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    Firstly, a site like www.doesgodexist.org is most likely very biased and give information that proves their cause.
    Also saying that because there is hydrogen which leads to formation of suns doesn't prove that there wasn't matter before the big bang. There could have been matter with completely different compositions that aren't even close to what matter is today.

    How is it illogical for us to simply grow brains to do all of that? Through millions of years mutations occur that benefit us and those stay. Through all this evolution we come into what we are today, a very complex organism that was built through millions of years. With a big and complex enough brain all those things you said are possible.

    Can you provide some proof as to how it is illogical? You just state it. Also if it weren't that, since we clearly exist what is the proof of your belief of how it happened.

    You claim that you were an Atheist and now reject the mainstream Atheist beliefs. I'd like to read some of that evidence that you have seen that completely changed your mind.
     
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    So you're saying you've studied your arguments in depth and yet you rip them from a site biased towards Christianity?
     
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    I dont think there is.
    If there was, why wouldn't he prove to us all that he was there
     
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    the all so famous question
     
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    Edited.
     
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    Entropy is likely reset in a "big crunch" at the end of a universe's "lifespan".

    Correct, the fusion process has not been going on forever. It began a finite amount of time ago.

    Giving credit to www.doesgodexist.org, which gave me this information on the sun and stars.

    Why isn't it possible? Have you actively researched this in depth for many years? Have you discussed your ideas with the leading minds of today?

    Time itself began in the Big Bang. One cannot speak of "before" the Big Bang since there was no "before". Why the Big Bang occurred, I don't know, but let's keep an open mind until evidence comes up showing what might have done it.

    Excellent.

    The matter in the universe could have existed "forever", outside of time, but it wouldn't have been undergoing fusion.
     
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    One may say the same thing towards you, you should keep an open mind until there is evidence of a God.
     
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    He is keeping an open mind. I am keeping an open mind. The thing is, there is no evidence in support of the existence of a God therefore I highly doubt the existence of one.

    If anyone can provide irrefutable proof of God, sure, I'll admit his existence.

    On that topic, Darren, you still paying anyone that $1,000 for proof of God? Or did you raise the stakes?
     
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    That's exactly what I'm doing, and advising everybody else to do.

    I raised it to $10,000.
     
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    I have a question though, I've been told by many people and have also heard that time is finite, making matter finite, so therefore there can't be an infinite amount of matter because there is only a finite amount of time and the science definition of time is the change in matter. Is that fact or theory? Many people have been telling me it's fact but the way you guys are trying to get your point across to me is that that is just a theory.
     
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    Time being finite does not automatically mean that matter did not exist at some point. The singularity that later formed our universe could have existed in a timeless state "prior" to the Big Bang.
     
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    Remember In the Bible it Says man's brain will always look for a reason when sometimes their is no reason or proof but its real, I mean what do you want God to do come down here sit beside you and play Runescape , I mean Seriously everyone is trying to find stuff and find evidence that he is real the human brain is always looking for answers, But time will show The End.
    I am a Christian and yes I do Believe in God-Respect
     
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    Remember Charles Darwin, on his death bed he said "It was only a theory" remember yes animals do evolve into their surrounding habitat, and remember where did we come from it takes 2 people to make 1 or others,
    WHich we didnt come from a spec of dust or any such thing Just remember 2=x and without 2 = none so their has to be someone such as God, Which the human brain cannot nearly understand what it is but is always trying to look for a answer.
    God-Bless
     
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    How do you know that God exists? What leads you to believe?

    Darwin said nothing of the sort on his death-bed - but even if he did, it would be irrelevant. Would the Pope renouncing the Bible make you an atheist?

    Generally, to make another human, a pair of humans have to come together, but this wasn't always the way. The very first life forms reproduced by fission (and a great many still do today).
     
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    1st, The rumor was that he said that he was wrong. This was just a rumor and is untrue. It is truth thought that it is just a "Theory".

    2nd, Tell me what living organisms have been made recently that have a reproductive system.
     
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    It is true that evolution is a theory, but it cannot be said that it is "just" a theory. A theory in science is a very serious matter, requiring large amounts of supporting evidence, multiple predictions that have come true, and neat integration with all other scientific theories/laws. It is far more than a hypothesis.

    This might help: http://wilstar.com/theories.htm

    None. It is a very difficult feat to create life in a laboratory, much less life with reproductive systems.
     
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    Yes, I understand that. How do yo know that an intelligent creator didnt make the earth the way evolutionists think it was made? There is nothing that says he couldnt make it.

    then why did you say: The very first life forms reproduced by fission (and a great many still do today).
     
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    The evidence that is available suggests that natural forces shaped the Earth. It is possible that an intelligent creator shaped it, but there is no evidence to demonstrate that one did.

    The very first life forms were some sort of basic cell that reproduced by splitting itself in two. Today, many bacteria still do this.
     
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    shredder, i remember when it was 1 grand for proof
     
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    Shredderbeam think of it this way, Imagine a ship with food in it, going back and forth to a country and loading food and coming back with more with no one guiding the ship.

    Would you believe it?
     
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