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  1. Deac0n

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    Murder?

    I know I'll be banned in a few, but I'd really love to hear Darren's opinion on this one...


    Is the murder of another human being, wrong?


    Think truly hard before you answer "Yes, because no one has the right to take my life."

    And consider the fact that you truly don't have the right to stop them from doing something they are going to do ;).
     
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    Why don't I have the right to stop somebody from doing something that they are going to do?
     
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    I think a good tv series on Murder if in any case it is justifiable, would be Death Note. It is two great minds against each other. It's interesting about what reasons they give and has a great storyline. I suggest watching it.

    From what I know, it is impossible to justify Killing of any kind. You just have to think of you or anyone killing someone as minor as possible.
     
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    Murder?

    Because you impeach on free will.

    You have the free will, and right to defend yourself, he has the free will and right to kill you.



    My brother was telling me about death note, it seemed really interesting.

    Again, read what I wrote to Shredder. I justify it with free will.
     
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    I don't see a problem in it. Maybe on an innocent person, yea... But like, assassins kill people who have done somthing wrong, and are not innocent.. Being an assassin I see no problem in... If you want to kill someone, go right on ahead. If they have done somthing wrong, such as delt drugs, or guns.. I see no problem in killing them.
     
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    Murder?

    Your just like Light in the Death Note series.

    Also, Deacon, If you make another account and see this, Add my msn: [email protected].

    I think it's very controversial, I thought half the time that if they rob others of their life, their life would lose it's rights.
     
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    Murder?

    Well the presumption here is that might makes right - that because he has the ability to kill you, he has the right to kill you. If we agree that a right is "a legitimate moral claim", then this really boils down to a question of morals. Is killing another human being moral?
     
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    No it is not, since you do not have the right to control somebody's life. You have no right saying that somebody's life has to end at a certain time.

    As for morals, why else is murder a crime?
     
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    on tv it's fine. but irl naah :p
     
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    Murder is right I think. It depends on what they've done. They had to effect somebodies else in a negative way for no reason for there own personal gain for it to be justifible to me. Now I do believe in punishment has to fit the crime

    so if somebody was making rumors about you at school to effect you negativly and have personal gain, I don't think they should be murdered, but yes I do believe they should have punishment. If they did it cause you did something wrong to them for personal gain then I don't think it should be punished.

    Two wrongs do make it fair. Fuck being "right".
     
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    What the fuck does this have to do with the topic...

    Seriously, whats wrong with killing someone. UNLESS, they are not 100% innocent. People who sell guns to kid's, ect. If someone decides for no reason to go kill him.. Theres nothing wrong with that.
     
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    I don't get what your saying. If they are not 100% innocent, it's wrong to kill them? See but nobody is 100% innocent to anybody, cause what if somebody believes living is wrong? then to them it is acceptable in their head to kill them sence they are not 100% innocent. Which means that anybody can kill anyone cause it is almost a 100% chance that everybody is guilty to everybody.

    What I was saying is that, they had to effect somebody for personal gain. If they didn't effect somebody for personal gain then they can't be justified to be killed. But then again, alot of people think littering is wrong and alot of people litter. So if somebody litters for there personal gain of being lazy and in somebody else's mind, they think they effected them in a negative way for personal gain then it's justified to kill them. Which I disagree with, because of a fitting punishment for the crime.
     
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    Murder... good ol' murder. I believe in it to an extent.

    If your trying to kill me I will do my best to kill you first. But thanks to the law I'll go to jail for defending myself witch is bull shit.

    If your killing someone cause your bored, I believe in the death penalty so he should be killed.

    To kill someone out of hate such as they mock you nonstop, spread rumors, ect. I believe you should be able to beat the shit out of them, not kill. Unless if truly ruined your life.
     
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    If there is video footage of the killing, they are 100% guilty >.>. There's no need to question everything in the world. God I hate it when people do this to EVERYTHING.
     
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    Murder?

    When everything needs to be proved it's just better. At the same time it the worst idea ever. If there's a video, proof that it hasn't been tampered with, of someone killing someone else than they should be killed in the way the murder was.

    If you kill someone by shooting them in the head, you should be shot in the head.

    You burn them alive so should you be burned.
     
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    Murder?

    But then what about revenge killings?
    Since they have violated someone's rights, isn't a revenge kill morally right, since apart from carrying on the chain of murderers, the violation evens out?
     
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    Murder?

    Of course it's wrong! WTF is wrong with you?! The only time murder is somewhat ok is at war.
     
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    What is the difference between killing a man on the streets and killing the same man on the battlefield?
     
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    Murder?

    Everything is relative. Did Martin Luther King Jr. deserve to die? Did Hitler? Who gets to decide?


    Crazy stuff, ethics. Personally, I think murder is wrong. We, as a society, have the right to segregate those unfit for living with the rest in penitentiaries, but to take a human life? I do not presume to have that much authority over my fellow man.
     
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    Murder?

    You missed my point, I don't believe in murder for every little wrong thing. But I do believe in murder depending on what they did to you/somebody.
     
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