A question to everyone, including staff.

Before anything:

Staff, please do not move/close this. This thread is feedback. Once I get some answers to my question I will post the point I'm trying to get across, I can assure you it will be feedback you'll enjoy seeing.


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Hello. I have two questions for you all. This is my first one:

If your msn is hacked and the hacker goes on a scamming spree, are you responsible for your msn?

Let me set down an example.

Player A is a trusted member.
Player B is a scammer.


Player B hacks Player A's msn.
Player B goes on a scamming spree until Player A recovers his msn.
Player A is banned from Sythe.

Does player A need to refund all the people scammed in order to be unbanned? Or will he not be banned because it was somebody else?

I'm pretty sure the answer to this is that: If you're hacked, for whatever reason, you must repay in order to be unbanned.



Now here's my real question.

Are the staff above this rule? Let me re-say my example.

Player A is a staff member.
Player B hacks player A's msn.
Player B goes on a scamming spree.

Does player A have to pay everything back to be unbanned?










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Now here is something I'd like you all to know about.

11/30.

R2pleasent's msn is hacked because of his stupid mistake. His recovery question was "Mother's Birthplace" - his answer was the same town he currently lives in. Go figure.

The scammer goes about scamming close to 300M I believe. After a day somebody the scammer trusted with the msn account gives R2 his msn back. R2 repays him by banning him from Sythe. But this isn't what that is about.

Here's the thing:

R2 never paid anyone back anything. I had a talk with him on msn over this.

Sorry about chat logs but I didn't think to screeny the msn convo at the time.




I achieved this information after talking with the guy who is currently in control of R2's msn, which is why it says "he asked."

 

It's always been like this.

MegaMatt would also be unbanned if he had to ability to pay back everyone the hacker scammed.

 

Yes, but I'm talking about another staff member.

Same situation, different consequences.

I'll post pictures soon.

 

It's the person's responsibility if he's or her msn is hacked.

 

If your sythe account isn't but your msn is, it's your responsibility.

But if you post like in your sig "msn hacked" or something, you're good, I think.

 

Always ask for a MM.....But yes they are responsible, if there is actual proof that the hacker scammed

 

Now here is something I'd like you all to know about.

11/30.

R2pleasent's msn is hacked because of his stupid mistake. His recovery question was "Mother's Birthplace" - his answer was the same town he currently lives in. Go figure.

The scammer goes about scamming close to 300M I believe. After a day somebody the scammer trusted with the msn account gives R2 his msn back. R2 repays him by banning him from Sythe. But this isn't what that is about.

Here's the thing:

R2 never paid anyone back anything. I had a talk with him on msn over this.

Sorry about chat logs but I didn't think to screeny the msn convo at the time.




I achieved this information after talking with the guy who is currently in control of R2's msn, which is why it says "he asked."

 

There is no legit proof they didn't hack,
its called a proxy, anyone can use them,
they can make it look like it wasn't them,
even if not respondible they took the oath to create an account on sythe.org,
and vouched to follow the rules, accordingly.

 

Erm...not exactly sure what that means but ok.

 

What are you asking, exactly?

 

R2P is responsible in paying back the money if the hacker did indeed scam.

 

Yes indeed, i would like to know that to so i can give you my look about this.

 

Do you think it's right that R2 was hacked and didn't have to pay anything back?

It's happened to many other members, including Matt recently, and they've all been banned.

R2's status kept him from being banned - Do you think this is moral? Do you think he should get away with it?



Edit:

I'm aware they're not proof, sadly, which is why it's in the feedback section rather than the report a scammer section.

Nice porn in your sig.

 

Do you think it's right that R2 was hacked and didn't have to pay anything back? If he got prove of really being hacked, i say he dont have to pay back, since i dont see any prove i say YES pay back.

R2's status kept him from being banned - Do you think this is moral? Do you think he should get away with it? Well above ^

 

Do i think he should get away with it? If there is actual proof then no. But thats what happens when you know higher up people.

Thats not porn, you can't see anything.

Nice huge ass sig though.

 

Um....are you trying to say that if he has proof he was hacked he doesn't have to pay back? That doesn't make much sense, rephrase, please?

Also, R2's response to this entire thing was "my sig said always ask for a PM, therefore it's not my fault."

That's not good enough for me.





Edit:

It's 32 pixels over the rule, and I've asked Shredder for it and he said it wasn't a big deal.

And yes, it's mild porn to some extent because you can see something.

 

Why shouldn't you have to follow sig rules like everyone else?

 

MegaMatt = proof that the hacker had scammed. He is forced to pay that money back if he wants to return to sythe.
R2P = No proof at all. If there is no proof, he doesn't have to pay anything back.

R2P is wrong in that log, but it doesn't really matter if there isn't any proof.

 

34 pixels is close to nothing. If my sig was well over the limit I wouldn't even ask, I just wouldn't do it.

This isn't what this thread is about, so please refrain from spamming about it on here, if you wish to discuss it further I'll be happy to talk to you about it via PM.



Edit:

I know what you mean, Pen, but this thread isn't to try and get R2P to pay back/be banned - It's simply a question of character, in my opinion.

 

Your sig is still over the limit, which should get you infracted.

Actually, this plays right into it. You are saying that if someone is hacked on msn, and scams people then they should pay back. Then you are saying its unfair that r2p doesn't have to pay back what the hacker stole with his msn. Which, in question, makes the rule useless. If someone gets infracted for an oversized signature, just like yours, then it would be complete irony!

If they let you get away with it, then others will follow.