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Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

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  1. deadzone

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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    Why does there have to be a beginning of dust, nothing can be destroyed completely the molecules\atoms just get re-arranged there has always been the same amount of them and always will.

    DAmnit you beat me to it. :p
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    Yes... And what does that have to do with what I said?

    What I am saying is where did you atoms and molecules come from?

    Was there always a planet?
    Was there always a void?

    Tell me what you think.
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    Those are the random hunks of land that you mentioned.

    Currently, physics seems to indicate that matter cannot be destroyed or created.
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    Science can't offer a definite explanation about the origins of the Universe or humans. That granted, saying some God(s) created the Universe and designed human life is a joke.
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    Ok well I dont know how to explain this so let me as you a different question.

    If you believe that dust collected together How do we get all our elements, water, and other things? And how come our planet isnt a big burning ball of fire like the sun?
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    Isnt it obvious? the Flying Spaghetti Monster did it.....that HAS to be the answer


    who made the Flying Spaghetti Monster, you ask? i dunno man, i'll ask the Preacher next time i see him.
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    Good questions. The universe was primarily hydrogen and helium at first, but eventually it began to gather together (gravitational attraction). The more that gathered, the greater the net gravitational field was, and the more was pulled in. Eventually, the pressure at the center of the masses of hydrogen was so huge that nuclear fusion was able to take place. Fusion transforms light elements such as hydrogen and helium into any number of heavier elements, such as carbon and iron. These first stars, given their absolutely massive size, went nova fairly soon, spraying the universe with the heavier atoms needed for life.

    Earth isn't a ball of fire because rock does not undergo nuclear fusion, and even if it did, Earth's mass is nowhere near the required level.
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    How does dust have a gravitational pull? (I know it does but that wont make it stick in a clump of even a foot in diameter.) Then when you take gravity into account, the mass would have to be quite large to start attracting other pieces of "dust".

    Couple more qestions.

    Where did our atmosphere come from?
    How do you think "life" started?
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    All matter has some sort of gravitational pull.

    It's a bit different on Earth, where dust particles have to contend with Earth's gravity. When the solar system was forming, the dust and rocks effectively were in a zero-gravity environment, so they were able to have very slight attractions to each other that only increased as they grew larger.

    I would guess that our primary atmosphere came from volcanic activity early on in Earth's history.

    I think that life started in a very gradual manner, starting with some very primitive replicator that became trapped within an oily bubble.
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    the big bang created the universe which extends to infinite and relapses he time stage to the speed of light. meaning of the earths standards gives the hagen of the way earth was created. was like a large fireball with overtime the amount of atmospheric pressure exceedingly turned our atmosphere into one which organisms can live in which created us and eventually intellect of humans...
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    Can you expand on the atmosphere thing?

    And what is a "replicator"?
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    Volcanoes erupted, spewing gases.

    A replicator is something that makes copies of itself, usually imperfectly. DNA is an extremely complex example.
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    So you are saying that a piece of dna inside a bubble of oil started all life?
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    Not DNA - something much simpler.

    Although, yes, that is the gist of what I am getting at. After all, cells are only more complex versions of that, yes?
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    first let me ask what your belief is called so I know how to counter it. (I dont want to waste time countering something you dont believe)
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    You don't know that. The universe maybe expanding and then collapsing upon itself and being reborn again in an infinite cycle.
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    The closest name for it would be naturalism.
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    According to "what we know and understand" our reality everything is finite

    Do you believe in evolution?
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    That's not correct. Where did you hear that?

    Yes.
     
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    Don't believe in "Intelligent design"? Let me ask you some questions.

    1. Give me an example?

    2. If you believe in evolution then what type of evolution do you believe in since it breaks down into catagorys.
     
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