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  1. Unread #1 - Apr 27, 2020 at 1:25 PM
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    Reporting Burns for Breaking Contract Agreement, But i Broke the agreement myself

    1. Scammer's profile link:Burns
    2. Amount scammed: 5-6 weeks of revenue (Potentially over 5B+ 07) * i earn 2.5% of any service order we get *
    3. Explanation of the trade: This user recently sold his discord server to us making a agreement that we would be able to own it for at least another two months, we recently decided two weeks ago to sell the server back to him early since we for a while have been great friends. it was however agreed that even though we are selling him back to it early i would still get the next 5-6 weeks of cuts, (each week has the potential to earn me about 1B 07) * give or take of course as the orders that come in can obviously fluctuate.

    4. Today he told me that he is stripping me of my ownership and only paying me for this weeks cuts, so i explained to him that he agreed that i would like to get the next 5-6 weeks of cuts that i am entitled to, as he told me when we sold it back to him that he would pay me for the next 5-6 weeks of cuts this person suddenly decided to break there agreements with me which makes no sense, you can't break your agreement with me screwing me out of billions in revenue (07 Gp) this is a snaky move that is going to leave me in the dust out billions, and no longer with a discord server that i was a admin in until now (The cuts are split between admins)
    5. Proof that it's their Discord: Imgur
    6. Discord ID + Unique Discord ID:pier#9132 551884929999306994
    7. Other relevant trade screenshots: [removed] < gif of him buying the server back from us
    8. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...8882195497/Screenshot_2020-04-26-18-18-19.png < conversation of him saying i am losing my admin position yet refusing to pay me for the next 5-6 weeks in cuts
    9. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...9259814371/Screenshot_2020-04-26-18-18-23.png

    10. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/658524233722363915/704314944455180368/unknown.png

    11. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/658524233722363915/704315033865158726/unknown.png

    12. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/658524233722363915/704315213251608628/unknown.png
    13. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/658524233722363915/704318744335220776/unknown.png
    14. Imgur
    15. Those are screenshots proving that he agreeded i can not be kicked. so how is he going to be able to not only kick me but also refuse to pay me the 5-6 weeks of cuts he agreed to.
    16. i can show more if needed.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Apr 27, 2020 at 10:15 PM
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    Reporting Burns for Breaking Contract Agreement, But i Broke the agreement myself

    Please check deleted post for my reply as this shouldn't never have gotten this far and takes things out of context.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Apr 27, 2020 at 11:11 PM
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    Deleted post again.

    Check edits

    deleted post again
     
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  13. Unread #7 - Apr 29, 2020 at 10:29 PM
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    Reporting Burns for Breaking Contract Agreement, But i Broke the agreement myself

    "Make a post, then a second post, and delete the second post, that is much easier for us to read and search for any future reports/pardons/disputes."

    Which i believe is what i did - I was just aware of that rule and do apologize for that.

    If any staff wants to have full access to my discord account and server to check nothing is doctored or out of context.

    I find it funny that you bring up those stuff when you didn't include the part in your report when you paid workers x10 their deposit and some even had 5B in hopes that they would scam when i told you that you shouldn't be doing it but yet, you still did that. ( Screenshots are in deleted posts above )

    or the fact Gucci who is known for these stuff is helping you and stole our skilling bot code which you were aware of but continuing to use it when told about it.( Screenshots are in deleted posts above )

    Hypocritical that you make a report about me on here for "breaking" Sythe rules but you refuse to follow them yourself


    I'll not be making any of my posts open for the public to see, the staff can check deleted posts as i wish this to be handled without everyone jumping to conclusions until staff has made their decision.
     
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  15. Unread #8 - Apr 30, 2020 at 12:18 AM
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    Reporting Burns for Breaking Contract Agreement, But i Broke the agreement myself

    "TDLR deleted posts"

    I summarized everything into 1 as much as i could but more information is located in the deleted posts above a few days ago.
     
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  17. Unread #9 - Apr 30, 2020 at 9:49 AM
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    Reporting Burns for Breaking Contract Agreement, But i Broke the agreement myself

    I do not believe you are to be trusted with deposits. They gave me the deposits, if you scammed after I gave it to you it would be on me, they didn't trust you with them.

    None of them were even close to 10x the amount. the most was 2x, and I knew they wouldn't scam.

    That's also irrelevant as I am reporting you for breaking an agreement when you clearly state on your own terms that it is now invalid https://i.imgur.com/58vKvYA.png

    You're comparing adding a quester you would've agreed with to 4-5b with cuts, not to mention you didn't bring it up until a few days later.

    And do you know how contracts work? If I broke it, we go back on the contract. We get crown back and you get your 2.5b back. You don't have a right to break it.

    But yeah, keep comparing hiring a quester trying to use it as a valid excuse to scam 4-5b
     
  19. Unread #10 - Apr 30, 2020 at 11:43 AM
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    Reporting Burns for Breaking Contract Agreement, But i Broke the agreement myself

    I'll make this one public and let the staff decide as it will explaining most of it.( All the full chat logs and more evidence are in deleted posts including cuts/full transcript/agreements ect)


    Regarding You paying the deposits/payments


    https://i.imgur.com/4zCDo1H.png <- Says that he will pay then once
    they are done and refusing to pay any admins deposits/payments.

    https://i.imgur.com/26S4RHJ.png <- 10 mins after i said ok

    https://i.imgur.com/PtTa7T4.png <- decides to pay everything upfront which has lead to people having x10 their deposit limit and some had 5B without any protection in hopes that one of them do scam(no one did yet) so that we would be forced to pay out of our own pocket.



    Starting his own discord by using the exact same layout and word by word discord with stolen bot that he got from Gucci which was stolen from us.

    https://i.imgur.com/83qKOT0.png <- This is where i made the Pastebin public for workers to hear my side of story and him confirming he got the bot from gucci.

    https://i.imgur.com/utsW7g5.png <- Me buying the bot by Ainz

    https://i.imgur.com/Q4DNs0B.png <- Ainz confirming the final deal.

    https://i.imgur.com/5rFGdsJ.png <- Vouch from Ainz who made the bot and me


    I don't care that much of him using an exact copy of our discord but what i hate is that he made a deal with Gucci for our stolen code and knows it after telling him about it but still he refuses to to take it down/stop using it.



    The Agreement.


    https://i.imgur.com/vOSMjxq.png <- This is the agreement that we all 3 agreed upon. ( The agreement that jcw posted in this report regarding 5 weeks of cut is an old agreement which he didn't show/tell to mislead everyone thinking it was apart of it)

    https://i.imgur.com/sdxGIwp.png <- This is where jcw offers to give me admin but no ownership in which i decline as it's absurd since he got the admin spot for free. He didn't earn/worked for it as i gave him the moment he joined 5 weeks after the discord was made due the fact we knonw each other for years.

    Keep in mind i paid way above what i originally sold for and you can't simply go back to an old agreement whenever you feel like.

    You put the whole discord in jeopardy when you decided to
    1. Pay everyone well above their deposit limit
    2. Told you to pay the other admins in which you replied "I don't trust admins"
    3. Made a agreement with Gucci for stealing our bot knowingly that you didn't have/had any rights to it.



    Jcw is saying that he has the chance to earn 1B weekly is 100% false and not even close.

    For months cuts were split 2 ways ( jcw 50% Sebla 50% ) and under all these months, he never earned close to what he is saying. Jcw deleted our main channel where we post cuts 6 weeks ago when i sold the discord but the average cut is roughly (See deleted post above)



    Ending note:
    Jcw can't simply go back to that a agreement whenever he likes as that agreement has nothing to do with the new agreement and shouldn't be in the report as it has nothing to do with this.


    I don't believe you should have a ground on sythe when you aren't following their rules regarding stealing customers/bot/misleading workers and taking things out of context especially when you removed the part of you paying and putting the discord in jeopardy or using an old agreement with the new one without saying anything about it or #18 which is an old screenshot that was posted 3-4 weeks ago, long before this new agreement.


    I'm done posting after this as he continues to spread lies to workers/customers while still using the stolen copyrighted material in wish he refuses to stop doing it. - if staff wants access to my discord account to verify everything, let me know

    Edit: Forgot about the part when he said that they didn't trust me with it, all of them re deposited right away and i'm currently holding it. He was just hoping that one of them would scam massively to ruin the discord.

    Edit: A contract doesn't work like that, if you broke(which i didn't,you did), you can't simply go back to the old agreement. You didn't get kicked, you got deranked and offered a moderator spot and it wasn't because you broke the agreement - It was way more then that and the fact you put the discord in jeopardy the way you were acting.
     
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    Reporting Burns for Breaking Contract Agreement, But i Broke the agreement myself

    Why would I trust some people who go back on their word? I'm not going to put my name at risk because I decide to give you deposits rather than giving it to the people who gave it to me, if they want to trust you, they can. But I'm sure there is a couple that would not trust you with deposit gp, so there was no point in giving it to you.

    Me offering you the discord admin spot is not relevant, I was already hesitant to sell it to you because you were sketchy, and look what happened. You can't really run a discord without doing something to fuck it up, hence why you tried selling it multiple times before agreeing to give it to me and Sebla.

    I started my own discord while I was owner, and on top of that, I also paid for the bot. The bot came from cut gp which was being sent to me at the time. But also guess what, the code wasn't "stolen." Your verson of stealing the code is giving it to someone then regretting it later, that's not stealing.

    Not one person had 5b over their deposit limit, not one person had 10x their deposit limit, stop making up numbers.

    For three weeks, me and sebla were making 500m each~. this would likely have continued for the final 5 weeks. On top of that, you agreed to pay 6x of the weekly cuts when buying the discord back. So if week 8 had 1b of cuts, you pay 6b. when finally buying it back. That is where that number comes from.

    And you're still comparing adding a quester that you would have agreed to and that we urgently needed at the time/wasn't going to wait for you, it's not comparable
     
  23. Unread #12 - Apr 30, 2020 at 12:17 PM
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    You didn't have the bot code at all - you confirmed that you got it from gucci.

    You logic regarding on why you paid the deposits and payments while they were on customers account(which is what the deposits was for to cover our end)
    You didn't trust any of the admins or mods and just straight up paid everyone out when told not to.

    Benjee had 3b at the time you refunded his 2B deposit or are you gonna deny that as well? I don't care what your opinion is and you were never the owner of the discord.

    I sold the discord to Sebla and he decided to keep you as admin but i don'tmnot for the agreement but the way you were acting and didn't do a good job of being admin.


    I'm done talking about this, let the staff decide and please show us the agreement you made with gucci without taking things out of context but show the show whole DM conversation.
     
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    So he had 3b at the time, I'm not denying it, where do you get 5b from? 2b of it as his, he could only scam 3b, which he wouldn't have/didn't

    I did confirm I got it from Gucci, I'm just saying I don't think he "stole" it, you sent it to him, and he asked me if I wanted it, so I said yeah.

    But way to go off topic with that, when the reason I made this post was because you scammed by deranking me after I sold server to you because you promised cuts would be same, I would not have agreed if I knew you were going to go back on it
     
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    Never have i given it to gucci at all.

    Benje had 3b in payments + 2B deposit, you refunded the deposit = 5B but regardless of the amount, you left us with no protection and did it after telling you not to do it.

    It's not going off topic regarding Gucci, you made a deal with him in exchange for the stolen code after i told you about it but you ignored it.

    Show the screenshot of me giving it to Gucci (I want staff to verify it as gucci has faked screenshots in the past)


    Edit: I won't post anymore after this and will wait for sythe decision.
     
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    Reporting Burns for Breaking Contract Agreement, But i Broke the agreement myself

    Before I even begin to deal with detrimental report,
    @Burns Do not make edit history/private reports I am going to disregard all your deleted posts or I can make them public since I can't see a reason for any of them being private, I'll let you decide on that one.
     
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    No updates from me, just waiting for the reply. Thanks
     
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    Reporting Burns for Breaking Contract Agreement, But i Broke the agreement myself

    Same goes to me - I've given my reply to Pikachu that deleted post can be disregarded and go off what's public - Simply waiting for a decision.
     
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    @e123j Could you confirm is this was the agreement that you all agreed on?

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    If so @e123j where are you getting this from?

    If you want you can add me on discord, listed to the right
     
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    An update for the fan club watching this thread. We are awaiting on one more piece of information from one of the other admins of the discord and will have the resolution tomorrow. Thanks
     
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