What happens outside of Sythe.org, stays there.

Hi everybody.

Recently I have seen alot of people banned for phishing on other sites. Why should this effect us on Sythe.org. If phishing is permitted or endorsed by other sites it should not count towards an individual on this forum unless they;

1) Attempt to sell a phished account.

2) Attempt to sell items off phished accounts.

If you ban people for phishing, then you can also ban for using Warez, as it isn't permissable on Sythe.org, but other sites allow it.

Same for Password Cracking.

However, I think scamming should be isolated, as no sites allow scamming. Anyone banned on another site for scamming should be banned here.

So basically to sum it up;
1) Users who don't break rules on other forums should not be banned if the act be prohibited on Sythe.org, whether that act be phishing, password cracking, sharez, etc.

2) However, if they are banned for breaking rules such as scamming, then they can be rightfully banned as they have broken a rule on another site that is also prohobited on Sythe.org. This applies to rules such as; Scamming, staff impersonation, posting infected files, etc.

Thanks for reading.

 

Phishing is scamming. If you have warez, good for you. Do not post them here, (for legal reasons). Phishers do not deserve to be here, we do not need their type in the community. If someone phishes you, they are on sythe, you are on sythe, you know who they are... wouldn't you want then banned? We have to look at what COULD happen.

 

its true i think magic arrow is right tbh

 

Ok but since it was done outside of Sythe.org, what rules have they broken?You can't bas someone if he was doing something, which at the time was permissable.

 

I agree, if its before they joined sythe or it happens on another site or whatnot, as long as they don't phish anyone on this site then who cares? You can't control the interweb!!

 

Exactly my thoughts.

 

At least someone gets it.

 

How about we create and train our own accounts or buy them instead of stealing? If you rob a bank in china and come back to the USA/almost anywhere its still against the law. And when a country supports a thief it really gives bad reputation. Are you saying we should allow known terrorists into our countries just because they've done nothing wrong here?

 

You are relaying theft of pixels to the real world. First of all, virtual world is what it is, virtual. It does not exist.

We are not telling people to scam/phish people, we are simply saying that you should not be able to ban someone for offenses done off site.

 

stealing is stealing whether its pixels or physical objects and I think it would only be fair to ban someone if they phish on a site while they are active on sythe not if it was before.

And isn't scamming through paypal the same as stealing? I don't think any money transfer sites are physical but its pretty harsh when you lose money.

If you were about to do a trade w/o a mm and you look into someones history to find that they have phised accounts before wouldn't that degrade your trust for them? but since "what happens off site stays off site" is how we play we can't distrust them for stealing?

 

Terrorism is against the law everywhere. As is robbing a bank. We are talking about doing something permissable on one site, then coming to another site and getting banned because it isn't permissable.

 

Why bother having them on our forum? They're just going to carry over previous behavior. We don't need members who are known Phishers and welcoming theme is an unnecessary evil.

 

Virtual shit does not exist.

If you are wanting to use a mm for a trade, obviously you don't trust the person in the first place, so using a MM won't replace that trust, it only covers it up.

 

it exists but its not physical you put money in the bank which goes through paypal to the reciever. Or you pay your credit later or you recieve money to your bank account. This credit can at anytime be transferred to physical cash anyways almost all the money in the world isn't physical. When you pay for a car or house do you pay in physical money? And how can you be sure your not going to get a phised account?

 

Uh huh.

Still anwser my two questions;
1) What rules have been broken?

2) How does phishing on another site affect us here on Sythe.org.

 

1.) He hasn't broken any rules, but by being a known Phisher your endangering the members for no reason. What's the point of allowing in someone who has previously phished? It's account hacking and considered scamming.

2.) It doesn't, but the point Jethr0x and the lot of us are trying to make is that if we allow these people on our site we are increasing the chance of possible scams, aren't we trying to reduce scamming? Your questions are irrelevant. Phishing is scamming and users who are known scammers are banned.
The only option I would be open to for know Phishers is to provide them with a TWC rank and possibly a ban from the black market. Whatever it may be, precautions need to be taken.

 

The money does not exist, only credit.

You can't be sure if you are going to get a phished account even if there isn't allowed account phishing on other sites. Its a game or risk.

Also, even though its not against the law, selling rs shit is against runescape's TOS. You are basically breaking runescape's law.

 

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tj is soo right i say this rule should be looked at seriously

 

I understand what you are saying. but hackers are hackers, we want nothing to do with them.

 

Then why was joseph made a mod even when the staff knew about his past scamming times?

And there is a present mod who i will not mention who entails this trail.