A wakeup call and history lesson to ignorent americans

I'm fed up of american soliders saying they are defending our rights by fighting in iraq. Let me explain something to you..
YOU ARE NOT.
There is no threat to our freedoms.. No one is going to invade america just like no one is going to invade china, they are too big of countrys. Do you know what makes a terrorist a terrorist? If the "terrorists" had a country of their own then they wouldn't be called terrorists anymore.. They are only called terrorists because they aren't a country and are fighting a country. If you wanna call someone a terrorist then america is the biggest terrorist. America is the ONLY country that has EVER used a nucular weapon on a human population. EVER.

I do live in america, I am english I've lived here for 9 years now. I'm not an american citizen I just have a greencard. This is the most brainwashed country out there. They think they have the most powerful army on earth. ROFL. North korea has a bigger army, If china were to have a daft, which they don't need to because it's a communist country all they have to say is you are fighting, buddy. Then china could have an army that is bigger the the whole entire united states population combined and that wouldn't even be half of chinas population.

Back to america has never won a war by itself, well it's true. They didn't even win the revolutionary alone. The french helped them. also england was fighting more then one war at the time which forced the to hire mercenarys to fight in the war. It's silly.

so to all the americans out there who are insulted by this, I am sorry but it is all 100% fact. If you try and argue with this and just say that I am wrong, then you are a moron.

 

Nuclear bombing does not make you a terrorist.

 

I agree, America had no business in Iraq. The guy who threw his shoes at Bush is my hero.

*Hums the tune of Eminem's "Mosh"*

 

If the terrorists weren't being fought in Iraq, they would head over to America soon enough. And don't even talk about the nuclear bomb ... Jesus Christ. The dropping of the bombs halted the US from invading Japan, which would have resulted in higher casualties for both sides. It's also worth noting that Japan got the US involved in the war. The bombs wouldn't have been dropped in the first place if Japan didn't attack the United States.

This is related to what Finn mentioned. The US has the most powerful weapons in the world. Sure, North Korea may have an army of 1.4M people, but we have nuclear bombs along with an assortment of other toys. Quality over quantity always wins.

As for the war claim, please refer to Finn's links.

You're a moron for claiming their isn't another side to this argument.

On a side note, obtaining a spell check would vastly improve your chances of convincing people of your position. Spelling ignorant "ignorent" in the title generally turns people off.

 

What about the civil war? you just an angry little British kid, your all the same.

 

We take our soldiers out of a part of Iraq, and you still blow eachother up. Hence making our soldiers go BACK to those parts of Iraq and patrol it, Want us to leave ? Stop fucking shooting yourselves.

 

i am my self british and i dont belive what he belives and hes a moron he needs to grow balls and get a life seriously

 

Are you insinuating that the only purpose you're in Iraq is so that you help the people?

You're stupidity is shocking...

I was trying to find a video from youtube showing that the U.S military aren't even patrolling Baghdad, but I couldn't find it.

Stop posting ignorant comments such as these, the author of this thread is talking about people like you. Go fucking educate yourself.

 

The U.S. has no business in Iraq, Al Queda were never there. I don't agree with what Pwnography said about the States completely but it does hold some truth. Many of my classmates are extremely ignorant. We were debating about China and their hold on Tibet, the kids said "We should just nuke 'em". The future of America is not bright. Here's a video of some soilders in Iraq: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ki17673d_Qk&eurl

 

Would of been better if he would of hit him.

As i was listening to the song when i read this, i must truely agree.

The end of america is near i must say, as the fact that everything is becoming stricter. Your life is no longer yours, its the governments. Don't abide by it? Your fucked.

 

I agree with Pwnography, America is an unessacery aggressor in many of the worlds issues.

 

Seriously though, the only thing we need to do to fight terrorism is up our security. Going into another country is completely pointless because the terrorists aren't affiliated with any government.

 

Well first of all , I think it could matter less who the hell has the bigger army due to the fact that we have nuclear weapons and such.
Second , I think that U.S has no business in Iraq , they are just there for the oil.
Third , America won the revolutionary war with help , but , the Americans at the time were outnumbered , poorly trained , barley had any clothes , and starved alot. So you see , America was supposed to be fucked from the start , but someone decided to help us (French) and so we won.

O and last but not least. It's not the American soldiers that are saying that they are protecting our rights by fighting , it's the government.

 

i agree america shouldnt be in iraq.. we should be in afkanistan!

 

*Sigh* oh yes, its the "american soldiers" who say we are doing "right"
its the government >_>..
We just go in for pay, and a free education.
There is not right and wrong,
The people against us in the middle east believe what they are doing is right, and we believe that we are doing what is right.
Yes their belifes are a little wack, but there is no such thing as right, and wrong.

 

This should be another discussion but oh well.

Nuclear weapons... I know its human, say in the caveman times if someone had a big spear you would try and make a bigger one and hunt more to become popular and "strong" (apparently).

Sure I don't have much education on this, well, apart from me and my friends everyone at my school are zombies (even some of the teachers), only I or a few other people would take interest in such a subject as this. People don't understand the fact that nuclear weapons can destroy the world or damage it for many years, most governments would, if they could go back in time probably make sure that nuclear weapons were never invented if they could but hey we're stuck with them now. If America lost its weapons I'm sure everyone would get paranoid about Russia e.c.t. So it would take co-operation from EVERY country. I won't go into germ warfare as that is the most inhuman evil way of fighting EVER not to say what could happen if it gets out of hand.

And yes the troops in the east will be fighting because it's their job and duty to them to lay down their life for their country. America seems to think that everyone is after them - perhaps people wouldn't be plotting against them (they aren't anyway) if they stopped going into wars that had nothing to do with them. The UN need more power - if anyone was going to have nukes it would be them and them only.

Rebels or terrorists as Americans call all people who plot against certain things (not saying al-quaeda are right or any of that but most of their troops are fighting for their freedom in a war so that the Americans will bugger off, not so they can ban music and spread fear and terror (maybe that was the taliban..humm lol sorry al-quaeda if i got that one wrong )). No chance they could get a Nuke, it is extremely hard, expensive and very noticeable to make Nukes perhaps thats a reason America should go into a country for. So there is not much of a chance a "terrorist" organization would be able to point as many war heads back at America. And back i go on to Nukes, god apparently created humans to be perfect, science says we're very special to have survived so much and are almost perfect - only our "human" nature has got in the way of that, there always has to be a winner, a black and a white and good and a bad a right and a wrong, people who believe in dictators are generally the most caring about their country people who believe in a capitalistic state believe in the good of his and her fellow man. Perhaps we should all have different opinions, no right no wrong, if you believe in communism move here, if you believe in capitalism move here... If it could work like that, we wouldn't be pointing Nukes at each other...

Nothings ever prefect, believe what you believe and stay true if you die in the process you know how strong you are... no one's gonna stop you getting into heaven for that. Please don't be too harsh on me, i am only just a teen!

 

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The U.S./China are left alone for more reasons than their size.

Size != power.

China's population is a little over 1.3 billion. That's counting children, the elderly, the hospitalized, the housewives, and so on. Do you honestly think they could draft 300+ million?

Also, China is no longer Communist.

Very few wars are between just two countries, you know. Something to consider might be the involvement of secondary parties. How much did the French really help?

 

I don't understand what your point was. You're absolutely right.


Hence the reason why the majority of the american public voted for Obama. We got sick of fearmongering. Notice how guiliani went down like a lead balloon because of his focusing on 9/11. The mandate of power has shifted to the democrats because Americans are tired of war and tired of fearmongering. We're looking for progress, both diplomatically and civilly.

No idea what your rant was for. 4 years ago it might've been warranted, lol, but not today.

 

Would you start using quotes so we know who you are talking to?

I think Americans need a swift kick in the butt. This country is the fattest in the world, not the brightest, and heading in the direction of China becoming the next super power. What the hell happened to us? Obama and his crap about "change" are really gonna help.

America needs to wise up and see it like it is. We are heading for the dumps and no one here seems to care.

 

How about you call Obama, and tell him to start 500,000 us manufacturing plants.

Start War Bonds, and the etc.

The only reason they are tired of war is because its making times at home rough, which isn't even that rough at all.

Do as I said above, and we're an elite power, with a huge stable economy again.

Funny thing is...
If that shoe was aimed at Saddam, the man would of been taken outside and put up against the wall and shot.