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Discussion in 'Something For All' started by Analog, Dec 28, 2008.

  1. Analog

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    The many indiscriminate terrorist attacks in regions such as Egypt, Indonesia, Israel, Lebanon, Spain, Thailand, and the UK demonstrate the threat of terrorism to the world. This leaves open the possibility of future attacks which could occur randomly without warning.
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    What are you asking to discuss? The fact that idiots strap bombs to themselves, say they're martyrs, go onto a bus, and blow up innocent people?
     
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    There really is nothing to discuss, there is no way of stopping it besides implementing full control and observing every single person on the planet, and the chances of that happening are rather slim.
     
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    Just something to add, take the aggressive, and savage Brits out of Ireland, and I'm sure there would be 90% less terrorism.
     
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    actually there is a way to stop it- make the would-be terrorists think twice before going and doing it, make sure there are severe consequences like a millitary retaliation that would make the terrorist think if it really is worth it?

    although the solution may seem no less barbaric than the act of terrorism itself, there really is no choice but to fight fire with fire, otherwise the terrorists would keep coming
     
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    Let's look to Iraq/Afghanistan area.

    What is their motivation? Allah- their religion.
    Why? Is it written in their bible to "convert others or put them to death" or something like that..

    Military retaliation has done NOTHING to stop this.
     
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    They keep coming regardless because they have complete disregard for human life

    Their religion doesn't tell anyone to kill themselves. They pretend to be martyrs fighting eye for an eye when in reality it's not.
     
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    “They will have no choice, but to die or embrace Islam”
    mosquewatch.blogspot.com/2007/11/convert-or-die.html

    That is not fighting "eye-for-eye"

    It's fighting an "eye-for-a-book".
     
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    true, but if they know that those close to them will be hurt after their "glorious self-sacrifice" they will think twice
     
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    They know it, but you're fighting a whole religion that is based on "convert or die"

    They are willing to kill you, and take themselves and their family with them.
     
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    You must be stupid, In there holy book it doesnt say to kill anyone who refuses to become a muslim, In the koran they accsept the other religions. so it is not that the book says to kill everyone else. It is just some extremists using the book getting people who cant read to belive that it says in the koran to kill everyone else. Most of the people who blow them self up also does it to secure a future for there kids, They get promised money to there families and such if they do it. So i think you should reconsider it.

    Once again you quote a blog that has been made by an idiot, who claims he is the true muslim. I know several muslims who are just as free and just as conserd(sp) about terrorism as we are. Dont belive everyting you read and see. Want to know who the terroist are? Take a trip down to the refugee camps around the Middle-east, where the true victims and muslims are.

    No offence, but this is coming from a person living in Israel.
    You are brainwashed to belive everyone else is bad and what is with people down there always turning to guns and bombs to get there opinion out. you are just as bad the terrorists.
    If you say i am lieng, Please take a look at the news reports for the past 24 hours.
     
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    You must be illiterate.


    Qur’an:9:88 - “The Messenger and those who believe with him, strive hard and fight with their wealth and lives in Allah’s Cause.”

    Qur’an:9:5 - “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

    Qur’an:9:112 “The Believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, kill and are killed.”

    Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

    Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

    Qur’an:8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”

    Ishaq:587 “Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace.”

    Qur’an:8:65 “O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding.”

    Qur’an:9:123 “Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you.”

    Ishaq:578 “Crushing the heads of the infidels and splitting their skulls with sharp swords, we continually thrust and cut at the enemy. Blood gushed from their deep wounds as the battle wore them down. We conquered bearing the Prophet’s fluttering war banner. Our cavalry was submerged in rising dust, and our spears quivered, but by us the Prophet gained victory.”


    EDIT: Are you an Israelite? Just curious.
     
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    Source : http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

    The Bible and Christianity are worse than the Koran and Islam, just because Christians don't have as many extremists as Muslims do doesn't prove that you're any better.

    Hypocritically bigot. I hate debating with people like you, too full of yourself to even debate. It's funny, you do research about Islam and the Koran but don't do research about your own religion.
     
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    I thought these account were most likely fake; after all.. it is the Bible.

    And I'd honestly rather believe in something atleast semi-logically sane, than a religion base off the views, and to worship an illogically insane man.

    EDIT: MY religion is irrelevant, as you said, there are not "Christian Extremists
     
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    I love how people think there is nothing to debate which, honestly, is ludicrous. Simply discuss proper security measures, reasons for attack, why they are sometimes not targeted or premeditated, who is most susceptible, etc.
    I believe the most powerful tool a terrorist group has is the power to instill fear. When someone is feared, they are also respected. These terrorist aren't technically respected, but, they are respected in a sense that we know what these radical groups are capable of. When someone is living in fear, their judgment and decision making is clouded.
     
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    I'd have to agree with part of that, but to the other part..

    Terrorists are generally stupid.
    If they can think past their holy book and their bomb, I'm sure they'd be more feared.
     
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    it takes incredible ignorance to call somebody brainwashed without knowing their opinions.

    as for the recent attacks on Gaza- retaliation becomes necessery when our women, children and elders are suffering from never ending rocket launches on their towns for the past 3 or so weeks (since when the hamas chose to end the temporary truce)

    and please dont bring ridiculous claims that all palestinian casualties were innocent civillians- these targets were picked carefully for several months now, you can find IDF airplane footage clearly showing they're attacking rocket stashes (you see secondary explosions after the initial airplane strike) and hamas training camps and millitary bases- somehow "human rights" organisations call it "crimes against humanity" while they remained comfortably silent about the Qassam rocket launches.

    sadly, due to the incredible cynical cowardice used by the Hamas, by building their own millitary installations deep within densely populated civillian areas, stashing weapons inside mosques, and firing rockets from civillian homes, civillian casualties are inevitable

    since when is defending your people from a foreign threat a crime against humanity? the REAL crime is not doing anything about it
     
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    The US is the biggest terrorist threat in the world today, and the most effective way to reduce Qutbian terrorism would be call off the war on terrorism immediately and thoroughly revise imperialist foreign policy. Terrorism is the new Communism.

    EDIT: No, I'm not trolling, this is what I think.
     
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    So basically, show mass weakness, which would just empower the terrorists. We can't just end the war on terror, it's an impossibility. We aren't an imperialist nation by the way. Retaliation and fear are exactly what we DON'T want.
     
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    Invading the middle east and killing thousands of innocent people is empowering the terrorists. These organizations recruit people, and there will be plenty of pissed off natives of these countries who will blame the US for the loss of their families and livelihoods.

    The US is like an international terrorist organization. Look at Nicaragua or Afghanistan. And err, the US is without a doubt imperialist, there are countless examples of it using aggression to extend it's authority.
     
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