The truth about islam

Well this topic came about in my head when I helped an Asian man who works next to my brothers shop with some stuff. It was a 10 minute job, I then preceded to go to my brothers shop. After about 10 minutes, the man came in and shook my hand. As I was shaking his hand, he gave me $100 Aud. Then he left. I thought to myself, Why would he give me $100 For a job that wasnt even worth $5. So I went back to the man, and gave him the $100 back. He then asked me some questions, Such As "From which religion are you" And "Why did You give it back to me". I then left.

The man was taken back by what I had done. In Islam it tells us {None of you have truly believed until he wishes for his brother what he wishes for Himself}

So I wondered to myself, What I did was normal, Why was he so shocked. This Is what I came up with.


Stereotypes:
Media portray muslims as bloodthirsty maniacs who have no goal in life but to bomb people. Although the most honourable way to die is Jihad ( Dying in the name of god, there is only three law on which killing is permissable in Islam.
1. An Eye for an Eye
2. The married man who commits Adultery
3. Or the one who forsakes his religion and abondons his community.

Most Muslims disagree with terrorists. You will mainly find that they get annoyed by the bombings that happened. Not all Muslims are terrorists, A small clan of senseless animals are.

Muslims are generally very nice human beings, they have a sence of humour, they are kind, they are generally nice. So why does the media sell stories that are half true. I have a couple of theories;
1. Media networks such as Fox are run to help George W.Bush. By helping sell stories, they can successfully invade countries and steal their oil.

2. Media want an interesting story. Why not make a story bigger than it is to help sell it.

Now i will explain the an eye for an eye.

In Islam, god permits somebody to avenge a friend or relative death. However this does not apply with terrorism. Terrorists kill Innocent people for seemingly no reason at all, yet they claim to be doing it in the name of god. They are doing exactly the opposite of what god ordered them to do. Also there is a Ayat in the Quran which tells us that If one kills himself, he dies as a non-Believer. God does not tell them to blow up innocent people, instead he tells us to learn from them and teach them.

Media;
This is the one that cuts me the most. Lets just say Person A is an Arab, While Person B is an American Citizen.

Person A Has had a fight and hurt A normal American.

Person B has robbed a bank while armed.

Which one gets more attention? Obviously Person A because media want stories worth selling. Nobody cares about an armed robbery, they've been arround for ages. These Arab stories are new and people are interested in them.

In conclusion, Muslims are generally nice people who are nice and friendly. The images portrayed by media is false, and in reality they only post stories for people to buy them. Feel free to ask questions, And I'll Try my best to answer.

 

There are 2 types of Muslims :-

a)Extreme Muslims
b)Moderate Muslims

Moderate Muslims are Muslims who are normal people and blend in with society, but they would turn in into an extreme Muslim rather easily if an extreme Muslim convinced him into turning one (Using verses from the Koran and saying shit about how un-Islamic the world/society are etc).

Extremist Muslims are the Muslims that you see on TV.

Actually, the media report Muslims as extremist because the Muslims who stand out are extreme Muslims (Jihad, Taliban).

And the 'truth' about Islam can only be known if you live in a Islamic country. I do live in one and I do know the 'truth' about Islam. It's a piece of shit, a moronic belief that destroys the freedom of both men and women, those who don't follow it get segregated and ridiculed by society.

I left Islam and I'm leaving my community(Country) as soon as I'm done with college. Would you like to kill me O'peace lover?

I'll reply to the rest of your post when I'm back.

 

Fuck religion.

1. Just furthers my point that muslims are targeted by media/

2. The truth about islam is available over the internet and in most internet. Problem is you need an open mind and a will to seek knowledge.

3. Elaborate on how it is a moronic belief? You say something and you have no points to back it up.

4. http://www.themuslimwoman.com/herrights/womensrights.htm

5. In every country there is a form of segregation, not only in "Muslim Countries". Therefore your point isn't valid.

6. Is that what you came up with. Religion is something that people want to believe in. It's your choice to believe in a religion. You sir, believe in nothing.

7. That just proves your IQ is equivelant to a 4th grader. Please tell me you can tell the difference between abondoning your community and leaving a country in peace. Abondoning your community mean breaking a law, etc. It doesn't mean leaving your country.

 

I'm sure that the media would be targeting a certain religion if the followers of the certain religion were killing countless number of people, bombing buildings, and committing or partaking in atrocious activities for years with no end in sight.

Try living in Saudi Arabia, or any other middle-eastern country. It would be way different than what you expect. Most of the middle-eastern countries censor the internet. You really cannot compare a Islamic country with any other, and you cannot imagine what it is like living there unless you are.

Oh and, I do have an open mind.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy#In_Islam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/524777/posts
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-ENN4FsCxw

I really do not have to explain how moronic it is.

I'm not talking about what rights women had before Islam. Irrelevant.

I'm not saying segregation exists only in Islamic countries, I said it teaches segregation. Irrelevant.

First, how would you know this?
Second, I don't have faith in anything doesn't mean that I don't believe in anything. Even so, what's wrong with believing in nothing?

Abandon has many meanings.

Please keep insults out of this debate, thanks.

Well, Person B robbed a bank out of greed or need. While Person A hurts an innocent man because he does not like an American because of religious reasons.
And it's not only the Arabs that are getting attacked by the media, Black people, Mexicans etc are being attacked too. But the difference is they're not beheading innocent people because of religion.

Also, we all know the media tend to publish the stories that are worth selling.

Number 2 and 3 are not justifiable reasons to kill a person. And I don't really understand the first one, you would kill a man if he killed you first? What?

 

its 2 muslim religion:sun muslims
and the another 1 i dont remember

 

Wowhamba I have lived in islamic countries before(Lebanon). Sorry about the insult was a bit pissed off. Im off now

 

Please keep the insults to you're self and keep it off this site, some muslims might take it to the heart so Dont say it.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Lebanon

Lebanon is not an Islamic country. And it could barely be considered middle-eastern, people look different, landscape is different, people act different, different type of government.

The two major denomination of Islam are Sunni and Shia.

What insults? I'm debating, it is the general discussion forums isn't it? (My first 2 posts were in something for all which is a debating sub-forum). I don't care if people are offended.

 

So by that logic, all that believe in the christian God are also believing in a "moronic" belief because some people misinturpret?

 

No no, If you insult Islam in a Islamic nation, they kill you. They justify it by killing you in the name of Allah, or because the Koran said so and they have the power to do so.

 

Ahh yes believe it or not... I was just in the archives forums looking for a thread like this! Well now lets get started shall we?

I wont start by "Attacking" Muslims or their religion, but what i will do is say that most Muslims are friendly and have a sense of humor and are nice people but only IN Australia (Where i currently live). Obviously you have been convinced that they are good people, and i havent really gotten to know a person who follows the Islamic faith personally but from my very short meeting with them i could give them a small vouch as i did above.

Lets take this back to where 99% of the population of a country is Muslim-Egypt. I was born in Australia, but my background is Egyptian, and so i have a good idea of what Muslims do, how they act, and ofcourse, how they brainwash people. Yes 9/11 was probably cause by extremeists, yes the London bombings was cause by extremeists and yes all the other bombings were made by Muslim extremeists, BUT thats just the small picture (NO im not saying that 9/11 was insignificant, by all means no). In Egpyt there is no such thing as a decent Muslim... They are all either shonky buisness men or crooks. If you have ever been to Egypt you would know what its like (Especally those massive speakers 4AM in the morning). If you think Muslims are good people, try giving "Free speech" in their country, and i guarntee you will be piled by 30 Muslims and probably dragged on the streets via horse or car then killed. They bribe people into following Islam$(Yes in Australia and America and whereva els Muslims have managed to breed) and then interogate them and or kill them if they try and leave, i know because its happend to one of my cousins back in Egypt. And so i think what you should be looking at is the big picture, and not turn a blind eye.

Onto the matter of the media..I personaly dont mind what the media is doing, if anything i support the media in giving the Muslims a bad name, its all they deserve. Also in your little senario at the end, of course the media wants the Arab man, the robbery is typical, and in their shoes(The media) i would choose the arab and portray him and his faith as no good. I dont get it though, why do you care if the media does choose person A over person B? It doesnt make a difference wether or not the media portrays person A as a good being, people have been so convinced that muslims are bad that its almost out of the medias hands. Lol i think every American carrys mace from what ive seen on shows !

No im not trying to make a point, nor am i trying to prove anything, im just giving my opion on the subject.
Im not Muslim btw, im christian.

 

Ever heard of the crusades, hypocrite?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

 

Well your obviously offended, no i cant say ive heard of them, but i will read about them now that i have. Ill get a bit more specific, im Coptic Orthodox.. I dont really have much concern for the other branches of Christianity. Maybe you should have a read too yeah? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_Orthodox_Church

 

The way I see it - people are people.
There will always be extremists wherever you look...
IRA, KKK etc; whether it be relating to religion, race, nationality and so on.

I agree with you that media has turned this basic concept into a stereotypical analysis of human beings - "oh there goes a Muslim, fucking terrorists" ---- "There goes a black guy.... ---- " look a freshie European

its just retarded to be honest ><
I know a handful of muslims ... some are dicks but some are blessed.
same with the rest of the people I know - some are dicks yet some are blessed.
All this controversy is such a waste of time, money and energy.

One could Assume that the US government has a plot ah.

 

No, I'm not. I'm not a Muslim, I'm an Atheist.

Ah, well. I didn't know that, all you said was Christian.

 

well, yeah, radical muslims are very contributing to the "shock effect" that the Media, by it's nature, seeks to find, and it creates a strong stereotype because many people use the media as their source of information of the outside world.

i for example have studied a bit about islam, and i can say that as all relligious texts it has it's bad parts (non of which are worse than some atrocities endorsed in the jewish or christian bibles) and it has it's good parts.


the problem is that humans by their nature tend to generallize, so when they get a news report about muslims flying jets into the world trade center, they immediately associate muslims with arabs, and then we have our current situation where arabs get crappy treatment at most public airports because people are afraid of them.

 

Ok you thick bastard, answer me this, who set off the nuclear bomb in japan? America, you guys all talk about muslims "bombing" but whoever critisizes america is wrong? America is fucked up, they start wars with other countries for no apparent reason, i dont blame george bush getting attacked when he visited iraq, i hope he burns in hell.

 

Hmm yea very true i agree actually. America never gets called anything bad but really they are probably just as bad as the other terrorists and i wouldnt be surprised if George Bush got assassinated for what he did to iraq.

I don't get why America is going around other countries causing trouble when they already got there own troubles at home. I mean seriously "KKK" they need to sort that out, Barack Obama's gonna have a hard life just because of America.
American's are haters and racists.

 

Islamic people live their religon imo

 

I laughed at this statement...

You do know that a Muslim man can marry up to 5 times?

Btw, how can they be peace loving if you can kill for these reasons?

Name another religion that tells you its okay to kill