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The Existence of God

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Does God Exist?

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    do you look at what you type, or listen to what you say?
    I believe in god because a book told me so...
    The book tells you that the roof says you need to leave, do you believe that?
    There's nothing more/less gullible about believing either of those statements.
     
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    I dont practice others because theyre all bs, and praise statues or people. And you do not have reasons for disbelieving, you think you do. And, i never said i believed everything in the bible, but i know theres a god, and theres a jesus.. And no, trust me, id be dead right now if a door hadnt locked itself when i was in grade 3, id like to know how doors just lock, randomly, then.. o_O. So, dont call me guillible, cause i am not guillible for believing somthing.
    Do you read before you say i believe because of the bible? And yeah there is, the roof doesnt talk because its a material object, no one knows what god is, so i think believing the bible is alot less guillible.
     
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    Proof of BS? Merely an opinion. Post Proof.

    Last I checked from your standard, God is a person?

    Reason for disbelieving...
    -It is an irrational belief to think that one person created all that exists, in my opinion.

    How so? Can you prove this to us?

    How do you know that something was there you did not see?
    It was the 3rd Grade. Do you believe an 8 year old see's everything in 3rd Grade?

    How can you prove that you are not gullible for believing in God.
    God's existance focuses mainly around the text in the Bible, which you believe to have faults.

    You cannot describe these faults, or explain how believing in something does not make you gullible.

    Ex.
    I say there's a spider on the ceilling. You look up.
    *There was no spider, but you believed in it, making you a gullible person.

    So how does a door move if it is a material object.

    By another person's motion. The wind. This door can be moved on multiple occasions.
     
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    How do you know that?

    Specifically because you have an unsubstantiated belief.

    A door locked, and you don't know how it happened. Then, you suddenly hypothesize an intelligence living outside the universe that suddenly zooms in on our galaxy, our planet, and upon your home, and somehow moves a bolt in the lock, because you nearly walked into a garage full of fumes a second time.

    What on EARTH makes you come up with this hypothesis?
     
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    At no point was god said to be a person, god is just there, no one knows what he is, so i do not either. Once again, god is not a person, so you cannot say he is a person. I cannot prove god is real, this is why it is a debate that will never, be won, until doomsday, which is predicted to happen, in 2012. And yes, im sure there was something in a garage full of gasoline, which my dad killed himself with, lol. It locked itself, because my dad had already died, and doors dont just lock. And, if im guillible for believing, you are guillible for not, then? I do not have to prove it, neither do you. And i just believe in god and jesus, since the bible was most likely written over, which doesnt change the fact i know hes real. And roofs cant talk, you do knot know what god is, so no one can say whether its right to believe or not *Sorry for being messy, but im lazy.* Shredder, i cant prove it, which is why it is a debate. And once again, you dont know everything so you cannot say my religion is not real, which means you dont have the right to say it. And, since when has a door locked , when you about to go in and most likely die? Im sure it was the "nothing" you believe in, then.
     
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    Do you claim that there is no other logically possible way that the door could have locked?

    Also, I must pose a question to you: How does a door locking imply the existence of a supernatural intelligence that is looking out for your life?
     
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    Yes, i am claiming that, since it is true, i opened the door twice, the third time i wanted to go in, it was locked. And, maybe because it is impossible for a door to lock at the exact time to save your life, that doesnt just happen, this is why i believe in god, i cant prove it, and never will beable to, but tis my choice.
     
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    Well, in the Bible, isn't God said to be Jesus' FATHER?

    So if you don't know what he/she is, then why do you believe in a non-existant figure?

    And why is that?

    Emperical Evidence of this "Doomsday" occurance?

    You find your father killing himself funny?

    So the door locked itself because you Father died?

    How so?

    Neither do Philosophers...

    So now you're saying that you believe in God because the Bible was written over?


    And you do? Explain.
     
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    Argument ad ignoratum. How about technical malfunctions? And Jesus may have existed, but why does this validate God's existence? He's a *person!* Basically, your first sentence made you seem more ignorant than any other post you've made. ROFL. Buddhism praises THE LACK OF STATUS and personal posessions. Judaism is very similar to Christianity in terms of the basic tenants. And yes, you are easily deceived if you believe in God because you are fooling YOURSELF. Burden of proof is upon the believer.

    What does this have to do with anything at all?

    --EDIT--DANG, I WAS VERY LATE :O--
     
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    You are no logician - it is not logically impossible for a door to lock "spontaneously". I myself have been in a situation where the lock was left half turned, on the balancing point between locked and unlocked, where a sudden jolt (such as shutting a door) can force it either way - in your case, to the "locked" position.
     
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    i believe in god

    This post received an infraction for spam.
     
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    Well, in the Bible, isn't God said to be Jesus' FATHER? Yes, thats true but its also said jesus and god are the same person, Holy Spirit, God, Jesus, all are one.



    So if you don't know what he/she is, then why do you believe in a non-existant figure? Because i choose to, and theres nothing proving it wrong, so i do believe it.



    And why is that? It was proven when that god was person? I dont rember it being proven.


    @Shred, it was not a door handle lock, first of all, it was a completely unlocked *Dunno what to call it, but it was one where you put like the button thing into the sliding slot, to lock it.*

    @MAtt, buddhism is following a person, judism i do not, and wont learn about because its useless info to me, becuase it isnt what i believe in, now is it?





    Emperical Evidence of this "Doomsday" occurance? The mayans calendar?



    You find your father killing himself funny? No, but i really could care less, because of presribed drugs he acted nothing like he did before.



    So the door locked itself because you Father died? Uhh, no? The door locked itself the 3rd time i tried to open it, he was dead before i even got home for lunch. -.-



    How so? I give up, you wont understand that im saying im not guillible because im choosing to believe of my own choice.



    Neither do Philosophers... I was saying that about proving you are not guillible.



    So now you're saying that you believe in God because the Bible was written over? I never said that, the bible couldve been written over, who knows? I just know gods real, so is jesus, and the holy spirit.




    And you do? Explain. As i said earlier, no one knows what he is and neither do you.
     
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    Yes.

    Have you ever experienced a time in your life where you had put something somewhere and you knew it was there. You constantly looked in that spot a hundred times, and it was never there. Then, in time, the item(s) you were looking for had just randomly appeared in that exact location?
    -Explain to me how that happens? Was that God being naughty?

    Only an infraction? Ah, well, newcomer.

    But, why do you believe in God? What proof do you bring of his existance?
     
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    Have you ever experienced a time in your life where you had put something somewhere and you knew it was there. You constantly looked in that spot a hundred times, and it was never there. Then, in time, the item(s) you were looking for had just randomly appeared in that exact location?
    -Explain to me how that happens? Was that God being naughty? No, thats when you forgot where you put something? Lol, it happens to me to much, i dont pay enough attention.

    @Shred, it was not a door handle lock, first of all, it was a completely unlocked *Dunno what to call it, but it was one where you put like the button thing into the sliding slot, to lock it.*

    @MAtt, buddhism is following a person, judism i do not, and wont learn about because its useless info to me, becuase it isnt what i believe in, now is it?
     
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    The Mayan Calendar does not mention any sort of end of the world. All the hype about it is focused upon where it suddenly lets off, as if the ancient recorders had stopped marking dates, and never finished.
     
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    "There's nothing proving it wrong, so I chose to" is basically the definition of "ARGUMENT OF IGNORANCE" and "STUPIDITY"

    There's no evidence proving that pink unicorns don't exist, yet we don't all worship them because BURDEN OF PROOF IS ON THE BELIEVER. Believing in that which doesn't exist, or isn't proven, is by definition irrational.

    @iLeviathan; Buddhism does not follow a person, it follows a path of achieving spiritual enlightenment through a defined code of values. Christianity is following the teachings of Jesus, just as Buddhism is following the teachings of Siddhartha Goutama. You do realize you worship the exact same God Jewish people do, right? Rofl, "no relevance" -- that's pathetic.

    You're saying we're "gullible" for not believing in God, yet you yourself are not believing in Judaism because you don't know what it is, just like we don't know what God is. It seems quite ironic and irrational to me that you believe in one thing that has no proof but not another.

    I'm sick of debating with a retarded brick wall.
     
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    for all who think there is no god?? can u prove that? can u prove that t here is no god.. good luck with that
     
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    Can you prove there is a God? Good luck with that.

    BTW, your spam was kindly noted.
     
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    IT is predicted in the bible, just like many other things were, learn about it, theres meteor heading for earth aswell, cali will be destroyed 2010, and why would they just stop, thats idiotic.

    And, tell me one reason not to believe without it being about "LOGIC" God Does not need logic. And yeah, if pink unicorns existed, they wouldve ben found out by now O:.
     
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    "I cannot think of a way in which this could have occurred naturally. This means that it didn't occur naturally, and that God did it."

    No, it must have been aliens using their telekinesis powers.

    One need hardly refute that which has never been proven.
     
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