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The Existence of God

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Does God Exist?

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  1. Friddy

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    If there is a god, why hasn't he come down and stop all the problems in the world?
     
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    The presence of evil(or problems) doesn't disprove the existence of God.
     
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    However the presence of a benevolent AND all-powerful God does seem contradictory.
     
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    Thought I would drop in just to point out the stupidity of this argument.

    The answer is "Free-will." Doing that would prove his existence. As a result, the population as a whole would then realize that an all power being does, in fact, exist. This would then lead to everyone feeling indebted to this being and thus, more likely than not, worship him in fear of past sins and being punished. This would be the equivalent of rape, and completely undermine the idea behind Free-Will.
     
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    It is contradictory.

    Omnipotence, as bound by the laws of logic. You can say [an omnipotent being] has the power to create a stone he cannot lift, but that in itself contradicts.

    Therefore, the only two possible outcomes are:

    1) Omnipotence is not bound by logic and reason
    2) Omnipotence is a fallacy

    If you take option #1, it is illogical to argue about a God or Omnipotent being as the word itself is not bound by logic.

    Theistic arguments (in the idea of the belief of an Omnipotent God, such as Christianity), therefore, have no place in a rational debate about God.

    Did they not will themselves to worship him? The fact that one person had the option not to voids your argument.
     
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    If God created the universe, and God is all-knowing, then free will doesn't exist. Consider: God created every single particle that would comprise our bodies, knowing all of their future paths. God can presumably extrapolate their behavior out from the beginning of the universe to the time of humans, and thus he knows everything that we will do.
     
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    the possibillity of evolution has been proven, for example in charles darwins theory by using the animals of the galapagoes islands as supportive details to his statement that evolution was real, makes a lot of sense, and practically proves itself, aswell as im getting the insignuation that you are claiming to be a christian, well do you go to church? if so do the women in ur church speak? because it states in 1st corinthians 14:34 hat they are to remain silent, and it mentions in the last verse of revelations that if anyone (meaning including preachers) shall change or add or take away from the words of this prophecy and the holy gospel that they shall be removed from their part in the book of life and locked out of the heavenyl gates, meaning if your preacher is notenforcing things like that he is aswell going to hell, aswell as in 1st corinthians it states that women shall have there heads covered when they pray, does your church do that? aswell as if your church collects offering on other days not just the first day of the week (being sunday as stated in the bible) than they are a sinful church and are not sound, it states in the bible that it is more of a sin to go to an unsound church than just to stay home and pray by yourself, but if your church does infact follow all of that, than so be it, but remember to than aswell answer how evolution can't be possible in your opinion, seeing as it seems to have more proof of a possibillity of it being real compared to believeing in your religious beliefs.
     
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    yea i love god and always stick up for him <3:D
     
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    Yes, I do. Someone had to have made the world and us Humans and animals.
     
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    Argument ad Ignoratum - "I don't know, therefore God did it."

    I will also point out: "x is comforting does not imply x is true."

    Both points that Darren (as well as various people in his wake) have used time and time again, and yet people still reply with the same dumb responses? I can't see the logic in this topic any more.
     
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    I think that there may be a possibility that God does exist, but I mostly believe that we are born, live then just die.

    I find this argument quite good: if you believe in God, and if he does exist, then you might go to heaven when you die, but if you don't, and he does exist, they you might not, and through simply believing in him you do not lose anything.
     
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    "If we believe in something for fear of punishment and hope of reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed." - Albert Einstein.
     
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    Then how do you tell which God exactly to believe in? Besides, nobody chooses to believe/disbelieve in God. They're convinced.
     
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    Freedom of belief is the greatest sacrifice.
     
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    I believe in God and the main reasons for that are the accurate Bible prophecies and what the World is going through now might be showing that Revelation has already started or it's about to start soon.
     
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    Accurate? you mean very vague and very metaphorical, where you need a theologist to interprate it and make there own meaning on a book that doesnt make any real sense.

    Give one accurate, non metaphorical prediction.

    oh and the bible was written by people who thought the world was flat...
     
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    The prophecies have a fundamental flaw - they have been available to the public for thousands of years.
     
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    And who says they're not going to happen one day?
     
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    You're missing my point. Fulfilled prophecies are only meaningful when the prophecy is unknown to the those who fulfill it.
     
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    What empirical evidence do you NOT have of his existence?
     
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