The chicken or the egg!?

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The chicken or the egg!?
  1. Unread #1 - Nov 14, 2008 at 3:53 PM
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    The chicken or the egg!?

    Well my question to you is what came first

    This is quite the common dilemma but I did not see a thread about it so i decided to make one :D
    Chickens hatch from eggs, but eggs are laid by chickens, making it difficult to say which originally gave rise to the other. To ancient philosophers, the question about the first chicken or egg also evoked the questions of how life and the universe in general began.

    I have found some "theories* of what came first

    • If the egg is not necessarily of any specific type: Then it could be said that the egg came first, because other animals had been laying eggs long before chickens existed, such as the dinosaurs. In biology, egg is used as a general term in this way.

    • If only an egg that will hatch into a chicken can be considered a chicken egg: Then a re-consideration of the original question suggests: Some animal other than a chicken laid the first chicken egg which contained the first chicken. In this case the chicken egg came before the chicken. In reality, many scientific theories suggest that this would not have been a simple event. For example, the theory of Punctuated equilibrium theorizes that the actual speciation of an organism from its ancestral species is usually the result of many mutations combined with new geographical surroundings, called Cladogenesis.

    • If only an egg laid by a chicken can be considered a chicken egg: Then a re-consideration of the original question suggests: The first chicken (which hatched from a non-chicken egg) laid the first chicken egg. In this case the chicken came before the chicken egg. Again, this would not necessarily be a straightforward event.

    • If only an egg that is laid by a chicken and that will hatch into a chicken can be considered a chicken egg: Then the first chicken came from a different type of egg (not a chicken egg) and laid the first chicken egg. In this case eggs (in general) came first, the chicken came after, and the chicken egg came last.
     
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    The chicken or the egg!?

    Neither.
     
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    The chicken or the egg!?

    I ate the chicken then I layed the egg :)
     
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    The chicken or the egg!?

    If you're speaking specifically about the chicken's egg, and if you believe in evolution, then your opinion should be that the egg came first. This is because the animal that laid the first chicken egg was not a chicken, rather the animal one evolutionary stage behind the chicken. So animal "X" lays the egg that animal "X" believes is another one of it kind, but because of DNA mutations, it comes out a chicken.

    That was a mouthful (of chicken lol....lame)
     
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    The chicken or the egg!?

    a Dinosaur gave birth to a mutated dinosaur, which is known as a chicken, therefore, eggs came first.
     
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    Easy one.

    Eggs don't have genitals, therefore the chicken 'came' first.
     
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    The chicken or the egg!?

    the egg!:)
     
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    The chicken or the egg!?

    Oh crap didn't mean to post twice. stupid computer lagged. All things must come from other things, therefore the egg
     
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