Is gay sex wrong?

i agree being gay its okay but im not sure if its okay to be proud of it, idk its not like you can be proud of your carnal needs i guess

 

we think the same bro

 

Who defines what "wrong" is? How do we know what's truly wrong?

 

thats an interesting question , i guess we use same criterion since we have conscience, probably is right or wrong if god says it is ?

 

I dont know about god. I dont really believe. I dont consider myself atheist though. I just feel like if there was a god some of the things that happen in the world wouldn't happen. Although there could be a devil as well I guess.. and that's why bad things happen.. idk.

 

Im an ignorant too to be honest, but i prefer to believe in something, way easier that find explanation for many htings

 

No. Generally speaking being "gay" having "gay sex" however you want to word it isn't a choice. "it can be" but people are attracted to whatever they like plain and simple.

Also what's more its none of anybody's business but the people in the relationship or situation not being defensive just stating the facts.

 

Thank you for a useless post.

I don't understand what you're saying. Are you saying that gay people should be ashamed of being gay, or what?

Do you have a problem with straight couples being "over the top"?

You don't believe in God, but you don't consider yourself an atheist? My friend, can I buy you a dictionary?

What you prefer doesn't matter. Reality is reality, and your feelings don't matter.

 

Dumb straw man argument I see get thrown around really frequently. Never seen this once and I live in one of the most liberal cities in NA and have many many lgbt friends. Not once.

 

Do what you have to do. Live a bit and do whatever your heart desires.

 

What other people do in their own personal lives as two consenting individuals should have no influence on you as long as it's not hurting anybody. Everybody should be supporting LGBTQ rights for this reason. Some of my best friends are LGBTQ and they're great people who just want to be left alone and have the same rights as the rest of us. I don't get why it's a big deal.

 

I think it's wrong, i mean I believe all same-sex relationships are wrong given the fact that i'm Christian but this is Sythe so a lot of things I read on here don't surprise me, and I respect everyone's point of view. P.S for anyone using consenting individuals as a premise for what is right or wrong. I would be curious to know if you think incest or polygamy is okay for the same reasons.

 

In the Old Testament, it says that gay sex is wrong, but it also says that eating lobster is wrong, and that touching a woman on her period makes you unclean. Do you strictly follow all the rules in the Old Testament?

In the New Testament, one guy (Paul) who says that he saw Jesus in a vision says that gay sex is wrong. Jesus himself is silent on the matter. Why would you take that seriously? What if I said that I saw Jesus? Would you believe everything I had to say?

As a further point, do you have any internal moral compass at all, or do you just refer to a book when you're unsure?

Incest, no, because there's pretty much always a power imbalance between 2 family members, making the potential for abuse massive.

Polygamy, I don't have an issue with. There are quite a few people who practice polyamory today.

 

no, I don't strictly follow the rules of the Old Testament. The dietary laws for one were done away with in Mark 7:19. The difference is that homosexuality is not done away with but instead reinforced in the New Testament.

Christians believe that the bible is the inspired word of God. According to Timothy 3:16-17 "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness." So claiming that the Apostle Paul wrote it or whoever doesn't make it invalid in my opinion.

As far as you asking me if I have any internal moral compass at all? I'm not sure what kind of response you're looking for on that. Am I suppose to establish my morals based upon a gut feeling of some sort or what's popular in the media these days? Why don't you tell me what your morals are based off of? and where do you go if you're unsure? Because 50 years ago, same-sex marriage was not only - not recognized in law but homosexual acts were forbidden altogether. Who knows your ancestors may have thought it was wrong? And they didn't necessarily need to be religious to have that opinion. Besides, societies standard of morality is constantly changing. Transgender - ism (which has or had been listed as a mental disorder by supposed highly reputable medical associations for decades just as homosexuality once was) is now being pushed as normal in today's society. What about gender less identity? These are concepts that weren't even thinkable 20 years ago. Considering that old ideas are constantly being modified how do you know what you're believing in is right?

 

How does two consenting individuals of the same sex who want to have intercourse bother you? You think it's wrong obviously, but to deny them rights is another story. They just want the same rights as everyone else (get married etc).

Also, incest is not okay because it effects the offspring genetically. I'm fine with polygamy if it's consensual.

 

I'm not saying they can't have intercourse, even if I don't think it's moral, you should have the freedom to engage in the privacy of your own home if you so choose. When it comes to marriage, I believe it's important to make the distinction on whether that should be considered a right or a privilege. My belief is that marriage is a critical cornerstone to a functioning society. Life long unions are necessary for building and prolonging the human race. Obviously two men or two women are incapable of conceiving a child and I've read that only a small percentage of people in homosexual relations even stay true to monogamy. You may/or may not value monogamy given your indifference towards polygamy but think of the impact that has on children. Would you want your Dad or Mom to be in sexual affairs with multiple people? How would that make you feel as a child? FYI. I've read the section rules here, and it almost makes me feel cornered that we're not even allowed to mention children. A lot of these guidelines are a detriment for anyone debating this topic from a conservative point of view. My hope is that all opinions will be welcomed and equally respected. Besides, I've shifted through many statistics regarding this subject and one of the points I've found is that since the legalization of same-sex marriage, homosexuals rarely get married to begin with. It is common for them to have multiple partners and not remain exclusive so there's no point in marrying.

Incest not being okay because it effects the offspring genetically is a good point. Since you mentioned it, I feel that it's only fair to point out that statistics have also shown that homosexual relations have led to significantly disproportionate HIV/AIDS infections in the gay community. There have been many explanations brought forth for why this is happening but it doesn't change the fact it's still out there and deserves a lot more attention. And it's only one of the many diseases and other mental health issues associated with the homosexual lifestyle. Thus, if we're going to reject incest for the genetic defects that are caused by it, we should also reject gay sex for medical reasons of it's own. P.S a lot of this info has been buried as politics has been infiltrating the medical scene for years so if you search the internet you will only found piles of articles affirming this behavior from mainstream sources.

 

I agree with you. Good words.

 

As long as they don't publicly flaunt that they have intercourse in public it's fine. If hetero people don't talk about their sexual life everyday in public on a daily basis then they shouldn't either