The Existence of God

That's where the big bang theory comes in.

I'm a Christian - though, I'm doubting there is a 'God.' There's no physical evidence to prove the existence of one, and an invisible man in the sky who created everything with his own hands seems a bit ridiculous. There are many religions and beliefs - which in the end, all contradict itself and have the lack of physical evidence.

 

The majority of the people believe in god because other people do,like his family

Tbh why believe in god when you dont have any solid proof of his existance

 

Reductio ad absurdum.
You're agnostic, not Christian.

Because the Bible asks that you accept God on blind faith, and that just happens to work for some people. If God provided people with solid proof, it wouldn't be faith. It would be fact.

 

The Big Bang Theory is, as a given, a theory. It is not fact.

If you can purely base your religion off of no physical evidence, and if there is no opposite believer to bare the burden of proof, then you might as well not even be bothered in religion in the first place.

Have I not just implied that I didn't know either?

I was asking him why he believed in God, not that God was not real.

 

I believe in god. Its that simple for me. I dont go to church very often tho.

 

I consider myself an agnostic. You can't prove that God exists or that he doesn't exist. So you may choose to believe in him or not, and nobody can say you are wrong either way. I see agnosticism as the only logically defensible position.

But a lot of religious people see the existence of God as basic to their entire belief system. They have 'proofs' like: "Well, the earth is here, so someone had to make it, right?" or "Well, there are natural laws so someone had to declare them, right? They couldn't have existed all by themselves."

And you can't argue with arguments like this. I don't mean they're undeniable, only that you can't argue with them. 8^)

Leaving the question of whether God exists or not aside, religious doctrine doesn't come from God, it is invented by PEOPLE, to fill the gaps. As Hillare Belloc put it:

Oh let us never never doubt
What nobody is sure about!

 

Why do you believe in God? And if you do, why don't you go to Church more often?

@ Arya, guess I misunderstood your post, nevermind.

 

It dont matter how much you belive in god you DO NOT have to go to church, we can worship him in more ways than jsut going to church.

 

You seem to have skipped the first question.

Why do you believe in God?

 

I'm pretty sure Roman Catholics are obligated to go to Mass on Sundays.
And like Personal Jesus said, you ignored my first question. Why do you believe in God?

 

Just like Santa Claus, fairies, and pink ravens.

Well, you can, it's just incredibly frustrating.

 

I know this is somewhat irrelevant, but the "big bang"/ non infinite universe has been discussed a lot here.

Doesn't this big bang violate the laws of thermodynamics (entropy and energy INCREASED in a previously closed equilibrium) and thus cannot be explained by science at the present time?

Just a theory for all you science folks.

 

yes, there is 1 god..creator of all

 

Can you provide evidence for such a claim? Can you even argue your claim reasonably? If not, get out.

 

you shouldnt post a comment if you are not able to support your answer and/or argue with reasons why yoru answer is right.

 

The Big Bang theory refers to the rapid expansion of the universe right after time zero, not the creation of matter from nothing.

Also, entropy can decrease in an unordered system. Think of powerful magnets scattered around a table - they will order themselves very quickly.

 

I believe in god.. and this is how I support my claim,

Ok... This is how I'm going to start off my evidence for God,

Have you ever thought deeply about the question:
"Does God exist?"

Did he create man or did man create him?

The question of God's existence may be the ultimate of what philosophers call the
"Big Questions of Life."

What people preceive as
- Real
- True
- Right
- Valuable, and
- Meaningful
is dramatically influenced by their view of whether God is real or not.

Since this perspective forms the context of an overall worldview,
The Atheist and the Christian view all of reality in different ways.

For the Christian, the God of the Bible defines the ultimate context for all life and thought.
BUT,
are there valid reasons to believe he actually exists?

A cogent way of arguing for God is to infer him existence as an explanation for the most meaningful realities of life.

This abductive form of logical reasoning is very similar to the way
- Detectives
- Lawyers
- Historians
- Scientists
reason.

This careful thought process moves from the data, facts, evidence, and phenomena of the world to draw the most consistent and plausible explanation for these realities

Logicians call this form of reasoning:
"Inference to the best explanation."

Ok.. Uhm.. Let's briefly explore how the God of the Bible provides a solid and consistent foundation for explaining the important realities and phenomena encountered in life in five specific ways.


Number 1:
God uniquely accounts for the physical universe's beginning.

According to prevailing scientific theory, the universe had a singular beginning about 14 billion years ago.
ALL matter, energy, time, and space came into existence... Out of nothing...
This big bang gradually cooled and diffused sufficiently to allow for the formulation of galaxies, stars, planets, etc.

This big bang cosmological model, which is embraced by the vast majority of research scientists, demonstrates that the universe is not eternal,
But had a specific beginning a finite period of time ago.

In light of the compelling scientific evidence that the universe had a definite beginning, the question asked by German philosopher Gottfried Leibniz is quite stimulating:
"Why is there something rather than nothing?"
Why indeed?

Big Bang cosmology matches quite well with the biblical doctrine of creation ex nihilo. The first verse of the Bible states:
"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
The infinite, eternal, and personal creator God of the Bible can serve as an adequate explanation for the physcial universe's beginning.

Yet, if you reject belief in God, How do you explain the universe's singular beginning?
Some atheists insist that the universe came from nothing by no one.

But is that answer truly reasonable...?
The Bible's cosmology, on the other hand, fits the scientific facts...


Number 2:
God uniquely accounts for the order, complexity, and design evident in the universe.

Even the staunchest atheist would admit that the universe exhibits amaxing order, regularity, complexity, and intelligibility.

However, the general acceptance of the anthropic principle - the view that,
nature's laws appear to be fine-tuned to ensure the emergence of human life,
by the scientific community has heightened the intuition that the universe is the product of a cosmic Designer.

The astonishing intricacy, harmony, and organization of the cosmos in allowing for human life is evidence from the fine-tuning of the fundamental constants of physics, to the "just-so" nature of the galaxy and solar system, to the information-laden building blocks known as DNA code, to perhaps the crowning design achievement:
The incredible and delicate complexity of the human brain-mind relationship.

The amazing complexity evident in the universe matches well with what the Bible says about God's intelligent creative actions.

The Book of Proverbs states:
"By wisdom the LORD laid earth's foundations, by understanding he set the heavens in place."

Yet if you reject the logical inference that God stands behind the universe as an explanatory hypothesis,
then you must conclude that all the order, complexity, and intelligibility contained in the universe ultimately results for chance and coincidence.

But how can such rational enterprises as logic, mathematics, and science be reasonably justified when the human brain and mind are the results of a non-rational. Mindless accident?


Number 3:
God uniquely accounts for the reality of objective ethical values.

Moral values are a fundamental part of human life, every bit as real as the law of gravity. And people are generally intuitively cognizant of their moral obligations.

In the human heart, people readily experience the pull of real moral duty and obligation. This sense of moral oughtness is indeed prescriptive in nature, and transcends mere subjective feelings and individual considerations.

Basic moral intuitions such as
"it is wrong to murder"
"it is right to be loving, truthful, courageous, and compassionate"
Testify to the truth of objective moral values

These values appear to stand as distinct from, and independent of, the human mind and will.
In other words, they are discovered, NOT invented.

But what accounts for the existence of objective, universal, unchanging moral principles?
What guarantees their validity?
And what is their source and foundation?

The ethics of Christian theism are grounded in the morally perfect nature of God who has specifically revealed his will to mankind.
God therefore stands as the source and foundation for objective moral values.

Absolute moral law extends from the cosmic moral Lawgiver. The God revealed in the Judeo-Christian Scriptures is the morally perfect person who stands behind the objective moral order discovered in the universe.

Yet, if you reject belief in God, how can objective morality be explained?
Why was it wrong for the Nazis to murder the Jews if human beings are merely highly evolved animals?
As Dostoevsky proclaimed:
"If God doesn't exist, everything is permissible."


Number 4:
God uniquely accounts for the enigma of man.

Human nature poses a puzzling paradox. While capable of great things in the areas of mathematics, science, technology, philosophy, the arts, humanitarian and charitable acts, and so forth,
Humanity is also equally capable of shameful and evil acts like rape, robbery, racism, slavery, and mass murder.

Explaining human nature poses an extra ordinary philosophical, psychological, spiritual challenge.

Yet the Bible seems to hold the secret to unraveling the enigma of man. The Christian Theistic worldview asserts that man's greatness is a direct result of the imago dei (image of God)

As a creature made in the image and likeness of God, man reflects the glory of his Maker, thus he is God-like in many respects, especially when compared to the animals.

The wretchedness, on the other hand, can be traced to the first human beings fall into sin (Genesis 3). Adam misused his freedom to rebel against God and as a result he suffered alienation from God and became pervasively sinful.

Adam's sin, however, affected more than just himself. Biblical doctrine makes clear that the entire human race inherited moral corruption from the first man, Adam (Romans 5).

In this present state of sin, man is capable of using his gifted qualities for evil purposes. He is a Blaise Pascal called him "the glory and rubbish of the universe."

Yet, if you reject belief in God, How do you explain the enigma of man?

Neither atheism nor the alternative religions of the world do as good a job as the Bible of explaining the world's greatest riddle - mankind.

Naturalistic evolution strains to explain a creature that is capable of painting the Sistine Chapel yet is also capable of creating Auschwitz


Number 5:
God uniquely accounts for the claims, character, and credentials of Jesus Christ

According to the historically reliable documents of the New Testament, Jesus of Nazareth made unparalleled claims to divine authority during his public ministry.

He equated himself with Yahweh (God). These unprecedented claims to deity caused Jesus to be arrested, convicted, and crucified for the specific charge of blasphemy. He claimed to be God in human flesh.

But are there good reasons for accepting Jesus' divine claim?
YES
Jesus' credentials as the divine Messiah are indeed formidable:
He fulfilled dozens of very specific Old Testament prophecies t hat were written hundreds of years before his birth and gave precise details concerning the birth, heritage, life, and death of the long awaited Messiah.

He was, according to the well-attested Gospel records, a prolific miracle worker who healed incurable diseases, restored sight to the blind, calmed storms, walked on water, and raised the dead, and none of his enemies question the authenticity of his miraculous claims.

He exhibited a matchless moral character and his teaching laid the foundation for much of the ethical theory practiced throughout Western civilization - No one has impacted the world for good as Jesus Christ did.

His resurrection from the dead was proclaimed by those who were eye witnesses and support is found in the empty tomb, the many post crucifixion appearances, the transformation of the apostles from cowards to martyrs, and the historic emergence of the Christian church.

THUS the only genuinely reasonable explanation for the historical life, death, and resurrection of Jesus is that He was God in human flesh.

YET, if you reject belief in God, how would you explain the extraordinary life of Jesus Christ?

In conclusion, an acceptable and viable worldview possesses genuine explanatory power and scope. One of the strongest evidences that Christian theism's truth-claims are correct is their ability to account for and justify the many diverse, and undeniable realities of life, like the five just mentioned.

Tell me if you find any grammar, nor spelling mistakes please.

Edit:
Also, unless someone counters every single statement above with plausible evidence that God doesn't exist my answer is Final. and Probably always will be even if you do.

 

Occam's Razor applies here. If a non-contingent existence is possible, why not have the universe be that existence? Why postulate God?

Also, note that this argument is the argument ad ignoratum, or argument from ignorance.

The Anthropic Principle is actually an argument against a designer. If the laws were otherwise, we wouldn't be here to consider them. The act of thinking about them necessitates that they are as they are.

Evolutionary theory explains this gap in your knowledge.

Reality is the sole judge of these disciplines. We know that they are accurate in that they accurately reflect upon and model reality.

You seem to be presuming that there is an objective morality.

I really don't see how. Are you using the argument from incredulity?

The first written accounts of Jesus are from some 35 years after his death. I'm not so sure they're reliable.

Also, did you write this yourself?

 

I see what you did there.

http://josecarlosoriano.multiply.com/journal/item/111/Does_God_exist

You even edited in a few spelling errors, like "amaxing" instead of "amazing".

 

Occam's Razor applies here. If a non-contingent existence is possible, why not have the universe be that existence? Why postulate God?

Because of the incredible design of the universe. I postulate on the fact their is a God because their is no way the evolution theory could account for all that is into existence. Its been 4000 years that we have onto record. Yet, the slightest bit of evolution of anything has occurred the time. Now when I mean evolution I don't mean that just simple evolving, I mean like a Dog hasn't breed and had a monkey or anything of that.



The Anthropic Principle is actually an argument against a designer. If the laws were otherwise, we wouldn't be here to consider them. The act of thinking about them necessitates that they are as they are.
Please post the straight facts of the Principle not the Principle itself.


Evolutionary theory explains this gap in your knowledge.
I know of the evolution theory, Their are 6 types and 5 have been proven wrong the last one is pretty much common since.


Reality is the sole judge of these disciplines. We know that they are accurate in that they accurately reflect upon and model reality.
Don't understand where your getting at..

So, your saying there is no Objective to Life..? Seems a bit like you think mankind has no purpose what-so ever

Proof of this? and Even if it were true who says it was false? No one from that time is still living to tell the truth.

no

Edit; Sorry I have a hard time looking at this shit, Wish it was SMF instead of vB