The Existence of God

Your arrogance is sickening.

No I have never in my whole life been in a near-death situation.

Really... Give christianity a chance.. or any religion at that..

 

I'm going to assume you've "experienced" God via Dream.

How are we to know you have actually experienced God, and not your mother telling you to get up from bed while you are sleeping(for example)? It has been proven that when I person is talked to while sleeping, their mind can insert words into their dream as they want to hear them. A description of one of these events of yours would be nice, because I'm sure there is a logical explanation for however it went down.

 

Oh well.

How did you experience God then? Was it subjective, or empirical and measurable?

You seem to assume that I haven't.

 

If God has unlimited power how can he make something higher than his power? It's like saying make a number higher than infinity. Oh and the lame arguement, infinity + 1 won't work. If you think it does then obviously you don't get the meaning of infinity.


Yet still, God will make that rock and pick it up with a finger. He'll make a burito so hot you'll die from heat, but He'll be taking seconds. He'll make a puzzle that's so impossible that He will have already solved it before He's touched it...
Just to make you happy.

 

Muslims, I just heard don't believe in God to be a person which is why they never use a gender to describe him. They believe that he is a sense of being up there that cannot be described by the adjectives a human mind is capable of using.

Christians believe he's a person even though most of the Quran is about the Bible. I'm so confused at this. Anyone (Vasily).

Shredder (lol irc)

 

I believe there is a god.... i mean think of it... huge rocks colliding to form planets ... ok that could happen... but how would people just show up on the planet... i mean seriously its like what came first the chicken or the egg... obviously its a stupid question.. but i can tell you that science cant just come up with a theory.. theres got to be a higher bieng.. that created all of mankind and animals

 

You obviously have no clue of a little thing called radiation in that equation ...

 

People didn't just 'show up on planets'. The first single-celled organism went through hundreds of millions of years of adaption, mutations, replications and all the wonders of evolution. As for the chicken and the egg paradox, that doesn't apply.

Omnipotence means to have unlimited abilities. The ability to manipulate logic, twisting the laws of physics and breaking the boundaries of reality are included in omnipotence.

 

If God can do the logically impossible, then there is no use debating about his existence. What you have is an unfalsifiable hypothesis.

 

I think this sums it up pretty well

 

How ridiculous. You skipped around my point completely. You said, "God will make that rock, and pick it up with a finger". The point of the rock is that he CANNOT PICK IT UP. IF HE WAS ABLE TO PICK UP THAT ROCK, HE WOULD NOT HAVE CREATED THE CORRECT ROCK. And if you say that creating that rock would be impossible for him, you are confirming my point that he CAN'T do everything. Even if it means creating something beyond his power, he should be able to do that. Because he's "god".

 

How can people NOT believe in god??

 

The exact same way we don't believe in Santa Claus, Zeus, or any other imaginary concept.

 

..i like to think i came from an intelligent life form.. not goo

 

Reductio ad absurdum logical fallacy.

http://www.iep.utm.edu/r/reductio.htm

 

huh english please!!

 

I provided a link to the definition.

Reductio ad absurdum is when you try to make an opposing argument sound ridiculous, and then conclude that it is false simply because it sounds ridiculous. It is not a rational way of arguing.

 

oh sry =] but I just feel that if there was no "God" then this world wouldn't be as it is today.

 

Well why wouldn't it be? What specifically would be different? What evidence do you have that God has altered anything?

 

Faith is what one spiritually believes in, and the whole concept of God being in any dimensional existence all revolves round faith. However, God hinders all scientific laws, irrelevant to the fact that God is portrayed to be a immortal being by atheists and other nonbelievers. There is one single factual evidence that portrays the fact that God has ever existed, or created the Earth- History. History has been passed down several decades, and is one of the most controversial issues that contradicts with religion. Jesus, the son of God, had existed. His miracles have been physically witnessed, and the Crucifixion was a religious historical event that took place. The Trinity included God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. These three separate and divine individual pieces to the Trinity link off to different events, furthermore proving the coexistence of each. From a purely scientific standpoint, it is easy to demonstrate that matter cannot be eternal in nature. The universe is expanding from what appears to be a beginning point in space/time, which appears to be a one time event. Hydrogen is the basic fuel of the cosmos, powering all stars and other energy sources in space. If the fuel of the universe has been used eternally, that fuel will eventually be depleted; but the evidence is that the cosmological gas gauge, while moving toward “empty,” is yet a long way from being there—a condition incompatible with an eternal universe. The second law of thermodynamics insists that the cosmos is moving toward a condition of disorder, sometimes referred to as “heat death.” Even in an oscillating universe, things ultimately run out of energy and “die.” All of these evidences, and several others we have not made reference to, show that matter cannot be eternal, as Dr. Sagan and his associates would like to believe. However, this does not mean that we automatically accept the hypothesis that God is the Creator. Why is it not equally invalid to suggest that God has always been?
The problem here is that many people have a mistaken concept of God. If we conceive of God as physical, anthropomorphic (like man) being, the question of God’s origin is valid. However, such a concept of God is alien to the Bible and to common sense. Consider the following descriptions of God from the Bible:
John 4: 24
God is a Spirit: ...

Matthew 16:17
... for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my father which is in heaven.

Numbers 23:19
God is not a man, that he should ... ;

Obviously, the descriptions and concepts of God given in these passages are that God is a spiritual entity. He exists outside of the three-dimensional physical world in which we live. The Bible further supports this concept of God in the following passages:

Jeremiah 23:23-24
Am I a God at hand, saith the Lord, and not a God afar off? ... Do not I fill heaven and earth? saith the LORD.

2 Chronicles 2:6
But who is able to build a house, seeing the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain him? ...

Acts 17:28
For in Him we live, and move, and have our being; ...

Not only is God described as being outside space, but He is also described as being outside of time. Consider the following:

2 Peter 3:8
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Psalm 90:4
For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.

Psalm 102:27
But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end.

Acts 1:7
...It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his power.

If God is a being that is unlimited in time, and if He has access to every piece of time as if it were now, the question of who created God is an invalid question. The problem is like asking a student to draw a four-sided triangle. The terminology is self-contradictory.

When asked “Who or what created God?” we are making the assumption that God was created. If God exists outside of time and space, and if He is the Creator of time and space, He obviously was not created! God began the beginning! This is why He says, “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last” (Revelation 22:13).

God created time. The statement of Genesis, “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth,” is making reference to the creation of time. The reason that things like heat death, the expansion of the universe, and the depletion of hydrogen do not apply to God is because He is outside of time. God has always been. He did things before time began (see 1 Corinthians 2:7). He not only began time; He will also end it. When time ends, all matter and all mankind will enter eternity—a timeless condition free of the negative things that time brings upon us now.

2 Peter 3:10-11
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness.

Revelation 21:4
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
Sorry for the length of this post, but when I have a point to prove, I will supply my answer with as much factual evidence as I can.
~EDIT~ Most of the above text was taken from another author, but do supply with proper facts for this controversy. To refer to this text, please go to:http://www.doesgodexist.org/Pamphlet...reatedGod.html
Edited this due to "Plagiarism". Don't feel like dealing with all the idiots that will say "0mfg n00b, copy / paste from G00gl3?!?"