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    A religion is a set of tenets and practices, often centered upon specific supernatural and moral claims about reality, the cosmos, and human nature, and often codified as prayer, ritual, or religious law. Religion also encompasses ancestral or cultural traditions, writings, history, and mythology, as well as personal faith and religious experience. The term "religion" refers to both the personal practices related to communal faith and to group rituals and communication stemming from shared conviction.

    In the frame of western religious thought,[1] religions present a common quality, the "hallmark of patriarchal religious thought": the division of the world in two comprehensive domains, one sacred, the other profane.[2] Religion is often described as a communal system for the coherence of belief focusing on a system of thought, unseen being, person, or object, that is considered to be supernatural, sacred, divine, or of the highest truth. Moral codes, practices, values, institutions, tradition, rituals, and scriptures are often traditionally associated with the core belief, and these may have some overlap with concepts in secular philosophy. Religion is also often described as a "way of life" or a life stance.

    The development of religion has taken many forms in various cultures. "Organized religion" generally refers to an organization of people supporting the exercise of some religion with a prescribed set of beliefs, often taking the form of a legal entity (see religion-supporting organization). Other religions believe in personal revelation. "Religion" is sometimes used interchangeably with "faith" or "belief system,"[3] but is more socially defined than that of personal convictions.

    I just coped and paste, to make it more specific.
     
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    Classical, I know what you're trying to say (Kinda) but I guess relegion is what you beleive in, so I guess to a certain extent. Science is kind of becoming a relegion..... but one that actually tries to logically make sense of things, not just refering back to old books to find out what supposedly happened.

    This distances it from other relegions, basically to the point of it not being able to be called a relegion.
     
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    Well, seeing as though you sparked a debate topic, we have a right to try to convince you that you are wrong.

    A few questions beforehand, though:

    1. Do you believe in God?

    2. Do you go to church?

    3. Do you have any evidence that there is a God(if you said yes to #1)?

    4. Why do you go to church(if you do)?
     
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    I'm not going to answer those questions, it will be all pointless.
    I'M JUST SAYING LET PEOPLE BELIEVE IN WHATEVER THEY WANT TO BELIEVE.......

    And yes I do believe in god, but I don't go to church every sunday, like once every year.
     
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    Not really. I wan't to know your standpoint before I get into a debate with you.


    Again with the multiple periods.>_<

    Anyways, you went from telling the science supporters to stop proving themselves to you, to leaving you alone. Either your being beaten and you know it, or your just being arrogant.
     
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    Well everyone is saying science has facts and is right.
    I'm just saying leave it alone.
    This isn't a battle.
    Oh and I'm not arrogant.
     
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    Thats because it's true.


    Why?


    Debate-wise, you made it so.
     
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    Failure.

    When you go to the hospital, you probably do not think that a surgical procedure is just as valid as a rain dance. Science is judged by its effect upon reality, not its own standards.

    Go away.
     
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    Umm go back 2 to the beginning and people said religion is false and science is true.
    You believe in science, like people believe in religion.
     
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    They never stated that religion was false, but that it is not logical, which is completely true.
     
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    Wow.

    You are honestly the first person, I have ever seen, to say that science is not facts.


    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH.

    Oh man, you have no idea how much I just lol'd.

    You suck.
     
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    Science isn't believing in a greater power, and religion is. Since no religion has evidence, Athiests win.
     
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    Science is truth backed by physical evidence.
    When you die, you simply cease to exist.
     
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    Science is not a religion. Science is simply inductive reasoning and observations of patterns in nature. There is no science bible, and unlike science, you are not going to be eternally damned if you don't believe a word of it. Science is based on patterns of things that ARE accepted to be true, and trying to make use of them in a broader sense. It doesn't even have to contradict theism.
     
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    Wow thats deep...
    but I'm pretty sure you pulled that out of your ass.
     
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    One thing..... How did the Big Bang get there?????
     
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    So, why don't you believe in scientific theory? Here, let me recite a famous quote by Albert Einstein:
    A scientific theory is something that has been thought about, discussed in depth and has a great deal of evidence to support it. Scientists don't just "make up" their evidence, they experiment many times to provide evidence for it. Commonly the evidence contradicts the theory, therefore the theory is either ditched or revised.

    Let me show you something. Get up out of your computer chair. Jump three times. Why don't you float? Gravity! Gravity is a scientific theory. Why is it a theory? Because we can't empirically prove it, we just know it exists around largely dense objects (such as this planet, or for the matter, a star such as our sun). Now, how to helicopters work? Surely those spinning blades couldn't possibly lift an object off the ground when Gravity is there! But wait, air! The blades cut through air on an angle which pushes the helicopter through the air itself (in simplest terms, I'm sure you don't want an entire physics assignment). Helicopters would not be possible without science, nor would planes, cars, ships, rockets and man-made satellites. All of these revolve around the theory you are just dismissing without a moment's thought.

    Excuse me if I call you delusional, just for a second.
     
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    Holy god a Admin dissed you. THAT IS AWESOME.
    :p
     
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    lol catolics and christians make shit up to belive they have somethign to live for .....ya know...i could a wrote a big book to of how there was a kinder egg god and he created allthe kinder eggs and when you die you become a kinder egg and make a church to worship kinder eggs and saying a giant fuckign kinder egg made the earth lol that'd be intence....i dont know how there can be some big fat dude in the sky making the world..making me how i am..makign trees....making people rob banks murder people have wars ruin "GODS ENVIRONMENT"
     
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    You're an idiot. After you die, your mind (except in extreme circumstances of mutilation) goes the same place your body goes, into the ground. There is no heaven.
     
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