Implement a rule forbidding 'buying cheap/all miniranks' in the Sand Box Marketplace

Often when scrolling in this sub-forum, I see posts where people have threads offering to buy "all" or cheap miniranks . For one, no one is buying all miniranks, and no one is just giving miniranks away at a cheap price aside from the few shitty ones we all know of. These threads do nothing but clog up this forum, where we already have many members with two, three, even four separate threads from Sythe Gold to Avatar/Signature Renting to Minirank sales.

My proposal is that we only allow threads that are selling miniranks, with the possible exception that a user may post with the seeking of a specific minirank, rather than just offering to buy 'cheap/all miniranks.'

Not all of these threads linked below are as 'pointless' as others, but a quick look through shows that probably (guesstimate) 95%+ of the posts are just bumps. If any members with threads like these would like to offer an opposing view, please provide any stats of how many purchases these threads actually bring in.

Examples:​

1. Buying cheapo mini's
   
2. [$1000 Donor][$150000+ Traded] Buying All MiniRanks
   
3. [$200 Donor] [800+ Vouches] Buying Miniranks
   
4. [1k+vouches] [$300+Donor] Buying miniranks via btc / 07

TLDR: If members would like to buy cheap/"all" miniranks, they can feel free to look through threads that have miniranks for sale.

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Update - I'm simply proposing that if people are gonna post minirank buying threads, they need to be specific in WHAT they are buying and what PRICE they are offering. A few of you above used the argument of gold buying threads. Yes, people *should* (I see often in Discord) post specifically that they are buying/selling a CERTAIN AMOUNT (100M) of gold in a certain game OSRS and at a certain price of say $0.59/M. "Buying gold at cheap price" is unacceptable/incomplete/not useful to sellers, and think/hope we could agree on this! In discord people post more specific.

 

No.

People can buy/sell whatever they want (within what's permissible), at whatever price they deem appropriate. If you don't want to engage in any business with them, don't. It's akin to buying and gold selling threads. No one is being forced into a sale. If i wan't to post a thread which states I'm buying all OSRS at 0.05/M, so be it. That's my decision and what I'm entitled to.

In regards to spam threads with obvious troll intentions - even to that extent, it hardly matters, as IIRC, you don't gain post-count within the Sand box.

 

No,

This will hurt bogdans business, and sythe can't handle that right now. Also free market rules, but that's just a side reason.

 

I don't see any point in this at all, some people just buy all trash miniranks for the sake of looking "more trusted" or any other reason, which i'm completely fine with

 

Goes against a free market. Would have to agree with @SellerMan

 

really no point, just bump your thread to the top, though i agree it is pointless spam where they offer $1 for a minirank, but nonetheless its still buisness

 

I have listed i am buying cheap mini ranks

any and all miniranks, for $1-2?

no to this suggesion.

 

So, your answer is a no. Why? Because, free market.

They can do whatever they want as long as they are following the rules.

 

Free market, no thank you sir.

 

Thanks for your well thought input. I hope your thread you consistently bump (along with other people) that clogs the forum is successful in buying miniranks for under $5.

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@zwei siegen @jackthehackm8 @Fear thanks for your feedback.

I understand it's a free market just pointing out how pointless these threads are as they get no attention or customers. Similar to the threads SellerMan referred to opting to buy GP at a rate far below the going rate. Pointless, not happening for them, taking up space.

That's my point. I'm okay with their 'free-market' posts that are attempting to buy at an even CLOSE to fair rate that miniranks go for. Rather than just "Am buying cheap and all miniranks," which is misleading because they AREN'T buying all miniranks, and aside from like 5 miniranks, none are 'cheap' at $5. Or $1-2 like this doof in the response above is asking for.

 

the thing is, miniranks actually have no value, the community just creates a value on it, but it's not a universal price that is fluctuated like osrs gp or games and shit, you know?

 

GP in reality has 'no value too.' no more than miniranks do. just pixels on a screen. whether you want to think/believe/argue that miniranks do or don't have value - they do here on Sythe.

I'm simply proposing that if people are gonna post minirank buying threads, they need to be specific in WHAT they are buying and what PRICE they are offering.

 

Support for this specific idea. Users may buy/sell at any price they choose as is a free market, but am not a big supporter of hiding prices and hate wasting time to contact multiple user to find price and have to wait or not be able to be online at same time as them, just to be told outrageous pricing and no deal..

 

Yes. Maybe my initial post wasn't entirely clear! It could have used more clear though before posting, which I will take into account in future suggestions. The problem is the vagueness and wide-cast net being thrown that is entirely ridiculous.

Thanks for your input.

 

I can see why you feel this way and some is sort of misleading.

When users are saying "all" ranks it can mean all ranks as in ALL ranks, and it can also mean all ranks they don't have in some cases, but you can see the confusion easily and the same with pricing.

The problem is, this is a free market, and whilst I do believe they have value it's more what you think face value they are worth which is where the real issue comes in.

 

Thanks for the idea. posting buying 1b rs3 at 0.01/m now!

OP: I think sythe rules should be revised in general tbh. Outdated/incorrect things are currently posted.

 

Actually, you can't state prices within titles, re gold buying/selling - it's against the rules. So stating 'cheap', 'best prices', etc, is actually totally acceptable.

 

Goes against a free market

 

@SellerMan as well. I ask you guys take a quick read on this. There is no true 'free market,' although I don't disagree with you. There are constraints on all 'free market' systems for obvious reasons, just like small rules to keep the markets fair for both sides. I simply am asking to impose an obvious need for 'pointless' posts seeking near free purchases far under the market rate. As you can see below, what I am asking is not as insane as some of you may think. I hope this helps you guys understand my point, even if we still disagree.

For example, we don't have a free market since we already have requirements of sellers to post certain pictures of account information, proof of gold stock, etc.

No worries! Thank you for your input, but "going against a free market" isn't entirely a valid argument, but I implore you both to further your stances if you would like to or think that my idea is really imposing on our already extremely free market in relativity to markets around us in the world.



Bottom sentence is another point I have. Just because there are very minor rules put in place, does not at all mean we are eliminating a free market. I just ask that buyers making minirank acquisition posts are more specific in the miniranks they WANT and a relative PRICE they are offering to pay. If I made a post "buying all pokemon miniranks for cheap," it would get 0 attention and just clog the sub-forum.

 

Free market doesn't imply a literal free-market with reckless abandonment in regards to this website, obviously. The term is just used as it best-fits Sythe's infrastructure and current rules/policies. It's a pseudo free-market - we all understand that when that term is used, it evidently comes with certain stipulations and has inherent rules/guidelines. I.e., doesn't imply a non-moderator can state they are a moderator within their titles.