Graffiti, art or not?

Graffiti isn't hard; it just takes careful planning. Managing where to place certain colors; hooks; accents, things of that nature.
I for one do not think that graffiti is vandalism; but a very beautiful artwork.

 

If somebody wrote "Fuck the Crips" or something I would consider it vandalism.

However, something like >this< is art.

 

I'd say it's an art.
Some grafitti is sick, and some you wonder why they took the time to do it..

 

Where I live; there's a thin line between good and bad.
There are 2 taggers worth mentioning here;
SinK and Atak.
They both have too much skill to mention. They manage to get in the sickest places you could imagine.
But there's another one here; named Hint; and he thinks he's skilled.
AtaK:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1138/539045679_94752c541a.jpg?v=0

He is pretty good.
THAT is considered art.
http://mindthegapkiev.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/graffiti-_2-uni-podil-july-07.jpg
This is not.

 

Thats just like saying drawing isnt art. Anyone can buy a pencil and just

scribble it on a piece of paper. All you need is an imagination.

Sounds stupid, huh?

Graffiti is definitely a art. It takes talent. Anything that takes work, and time,

is considered an art.

 

Skill required. my sisters ex. does tag, alot. he has skill. maybe some day i'll snap a photo for you guys. thats art.

 

^^Please snap a photo. I take pics of the trains that roll by some times. IT's awesome how they do that stuff.

 

There are different kinds of graffiti, The kind that is used for gang purposes and the kind that is murals. The second being art.

 

Yeh, that stuff is street art. well the cop is anyway, there is a difference between street art and graffiti. Street art has more meaning, sometimes political ect. Mainly stencils.

 

Bumping up a thread i made many years ago, i wanted to start another thread about this but i thought i may as well bring this one up again.

Thoughts and opinions?

 

i think grafiti is amazing art.. like how the shit do they do that with spray paint

 

The vile graffiti consistent of only the artists name is atrocious and disgraceful.

However, the graffiti where the artist takes time to perfect, and makes the art meaningful is truly magnificent. Some of them I walk past, and I really admire the time and dedication required to make such art.

However, the term art has been degraded so far in recent society that even throwing paint on paper is suddenly a work of art. So, graffiti in general is not art, some are just a repercussion of bored kids. Others however are truly worthy of the term art.

 

Sure it's art, but you didn't see Leonardo Da Vinci drawing the Mona Lisa under every bridge and in every alleyway..If graffiti artists kept there work to their own property and not publicly defacing buildings and things like that, then perhaps people would respect graffiti art more.

 

that takes skill

 

Here in holland, people that're good at spraying graffiti are getting paid LOADS.

 

I couldnt do that.

 

aerub gets in the sickest spots
this stuff takes skill, i hate the people who just scribble their name everywhere and think they are cool

 

ya most defently not everyone can do that , so yes i say its art!

 

I'm into tagging, always out with mates writing our tags over buildings etc, but i know, this isn't art, it's just a hassle for people to clean, and that's why we do it.

Although, wildstyle graffiti etc, this is an art.

 

As far as I can see, the process of reason cannot be applied here to reach and objective end. Any 'debates' about art are, by their very nature, spurious: they are mere discussions. One cannot remark objectively upon the quality of art, or indeed whether a work qualifies as ''art''. We must accept that each human views each sensual occurrence individually and thus cannot hope to determine in any objective sense whether graffiti is or isn't art.