care for the enemy?

I think it would be pointless to help the enemy at all.

"I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature."
~Adolf Hitler

 

Why not? As long as you do nothing wrong, you have a powerful side added onto you

So i should be able to kill you with no problems?

 

I think you should help any injured person. strip them of their weapons and they won't be a threat. Treat their wounds and make them prisoners of war. Then release them when the conflict is over.

 

If you choose to kill me, Then you could. You would have to face what happens after my death although you could do it.

 

Morality is shameful in the grounds of war. As humans, we are taught to forget that we are animals. Highly evolved animals. We are apart of nature, and war is apart of the natural balance of such a corrupted world where such things are normal. Animals kill, lest we forget that we are animals, morality should come no where near our decision to kill, while in war.

The scenario stays the same. Many times in history, a wounded soldier, by cause of land mine, have been able to defend and offend in war.

Nonetheless, it would be foolish to be injured on the brink of death, and when you see someone whom isn't on your side, not to fire at instinct. Obviously, that person would not come up to you and ask if you were alright, so such, again, is invalid. Besides, on battlescared grounds, I doubt it would be recorded that I killed the injured.

If you would put yourself at risk in war because of morals, I hope you choke on your own cock and die, arrogant american.

And BTW, I'm not American.

Then, ofcourse, my 6 years of up-close physical contact fighting wouldn't come in handy and I wouldn't be able to snap your neck, now would I? <-- Sarcasm. Weapons aren't the only things that kill, and surely aren't the most useful.

 

Ah, but i should not get in legal trouble, since nature does not.

 

Fuck the scenario, Im not talking about on the battlefield, and neither is the question. This is about wounded people who have surrendered, where they have no weapon, they are inprisoned. This is about looking after the enemy OFF the battlefield. FFS some of you people are so thick.

I never said i would, Where is the risk from a guy with no gun, no leg, 10 people pionting a gun at him and has no intentions of fighting. Im not talking about on the fucking battlefield, Actualy read what I and not jump to conclusions. You think someones going to wave a white flag with no weapon and then suddenly go jackie chan on an army of soldiers? come on...
And im australian you douche.

 

If we are refering to the Iraq war, what alot of people dont relise is these people are pretty much told from birth that every1 is evil etc etc and that there are 42 virgins waiting for them in heaven and if they kill themselves and others then they will go to heaven so if we were to get them and care for them we "could" get them to come and relise what they are told is well BULL, and then they can help us

 

Then call the police and tell them that nature killed a member of your family :idea: :idea:

 

fuck the enemy.

 

How the hell are you not talking about the battlefield, yet CLEARLY bellow, your explanation is in war?!? How the hell am I fucking thick, yet you talk about something, not even remembering? Is your brain truly that filled with shit? If the question were referring to what you second-hand said it were, it would have been in the first post.

Orly?

^^Gtfo.

Okay, where is the risk? Do you fucking realize that NOONE is like you?! Not everyone will give in so peacefully. War is filled with people who would fucking KILL THEIR MOTHERS for their fucking country. It would be the easiest thing for one of your people to be carrying me, 10 people pointing guns at me, and for me to simply reach my hand out and crack your neck, thus getting shot in the back 30 times and dieing.

I read what you put, and how the HELL am I jumping to conclusions?? I'm simply stating what I think are facts to contradict what you think are facts.

You can't really say that you'd just care for the enemy, and that logic tells you that they won't do anything, because in reality, it's quite possible, and I'm just going from the logical viewpoint, where reality is actually enforced.

If you think everyones as nice as a fucking tellytubbie, then I see your point of view, but hey, idk.

And BTW, I'm fucking british, not American.

I've seen it done. However, once ethics come into the picture, that might not be the best thing to do, lol.

 

Stop acting like a 12 year old.

 

It's 72 virgins, not 42. What I find humorous about this part of the Quran, is that it doesn't state that the 72 virgins are females. Imagine a terrorist showing up in Heaven, finding 72 nerdy dudes. Just imagine the expression on his face.

On-topic; taking prisoners in war is more beneficial than killing them. First of all, a war prisoner may be able to tell you information on the whereabouts of enemy outposts, where secret weapon and supply stashes are located, etc. Second of all, you show the civilians of the country that you're the good guys by letting them know you treat people in a humane fashion. Same thing applies to the rest of the world; you increase in international opinion. It's no fun having a bunch of human rights associations on your back, bitching about your unethical treatment of maniacs who would blow up half the Earth in the name of Allah.

 

You guys, Jihadists have a different religion than Islam. They just worship the same god. Different book. Different rules.

They're taught at a young age. Right at cognition. Some Christians believe that Jesus was around when the Dinosaurs were. Palin does.

 

Eh, no. Jihad means holy war and it comes from the Quran, the book that tells us it's alright to kill all non-Muslims if they won't accept the Quran as ultimate truth.

Palin also believes she can pray homosexuality out of people, which just shows that she's a fucking moron.

 

Please, show me where it says in the Quran to kill all non-Muslims if they won't accept the Quran as ultimate truth.

 

Ahh, wrong.

""""
Religion of Tolerance

Islam, in its true form, is a religion of peace and tolerance. In fact, the Qu'ran says:

There shall be no compulsion in religion. Distinct has now become the right way from [the way of] error: hence, he who rejects the powers of evil and believes in God has indeed taken hold of a support most unfailing, which shall never give way: for God is all-hearing, all-knowing. ( Al-Baqarah 2:256)

In another verse, God speaks directly to Mohammed (PBUH)* concerning non-Muslims:

But if they turn away [from thee, O Prophet, know that] We have not sent thee to be their keeper: thou art not bound to do more than deliver the message [entrusted to thee]. (Ash-Shura 42:48)

In yet another verse, Allah addresses the issue of harming non-Muslims:

Thus, if they let you be, and do not make war on you, and offer you peace, God does not allow you to harm them. (An-Nisaa' 4:90)

These verses clearly state that a Muslim's only job is to spread the word of Allah, not to enforce the message. If the Prophet (PBUH) was not allowed to enforce Islam, why would a regular person?
Muslims' Views on Ex-Muslims

Now, I am not going to tell you that Muslims are happy when one of their own converts. Much like Christian or Jewish families grieve when a member leaves the religion, so do Muslims grieve. Families feel hurt and angry. Some even cut communication with the convert. This is not unique to Islam. People of all religions sometimes react this way.

Muslims believe that Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are sister religions. We believe that they are all chapters from the same book. We feel that Islam and the Koran are simply extensions of the messages that Allah sent with the Torah and the Bible. So, when a Muslim converts we feel he has gone backwards in his religion.
Only Allah Can Judge

However, we do not feel it is up to us to judge. Only Allah knows what is in a person's heart and only Allah knows if he deserves punishment or reward.

About a person who was once Muslim and then converts to another religion, the Koran says:

But those who reject faith after they accepted it, and then go on adding to their defiance of faith never will their repentance be accepted; for they are those who have [of set purpose] gone astray. (Aal-`Imran 3:90)

Note that this says they will not be forgiven by Allah, but it does not mention death. It makes clear that any punishment will be set forth by Allah. """"

This is a mixture of exerts from the Qu'ran, and the input of other than it. No where in the Qu'ran does it state what you say.

I don't believe in Allah, or any, just saying.

 

I think you're thinking of the Geneva Convention.. or whatever.

But I'd help an ally out, bring him back to safety.

But not an enemy, who I've sworn to kill.

&#8220;They will have no choice, but to die or embrace Islam&#8221;
http://mosquewatch.blogspot.com/2007/11/convert-or-die.html

It says that, in the Qur'an.

 

Double post, delete it.

 

Theres a difference between in war and on the battlefield.

Lmao, your scenarios are childish. Yes, im sure it would be very easy with your hands tied behind your back. And usually they make you walk infront, and if you try anything you would be shot before you could scratch your arse. Also, if they where this type of person, they wouldnt surrender would they?

Logic tells me that a man without a gun waving a white flag is no threat. If you feel threatened, you would be to much of a pussy to be let into the defence force. Your logic says that all prisoners of war should be killed, Do you think thats right?

Its not about being nice or not, Its about avoiding senseless death. If you think its moral to kill a defenceless man, then good for you.

Look, chill out dude. I dont know why your getting so defencive.

Your way of thinking can be used outside of war. Say theres a criminal robbing a bank with a knife, the police come and they tell him to drop the knife, he drops it, Right now hes no different to a surrendered enemy. You think the police should shoot him dead simply because he might go jackie chan and snap someones neck? You think that he is much of a threat? Are you that much of a pussy to not be able to control an unarmed person?