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  1. Unread #1 - Sep 20, 2008 at 6:24 PM
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    Ok, I'm betting the majority of you believe in evolution. So here's my question to those of you: If your minds are the result of blind chance (random mutations), how can trust anything your minds come up with? If you are convinced that the reason you can formulate thoughts and arguments against God is through utter chance, I cannot see how you can use those same minds to argue against God.

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    Evolutionary theory does not hold that minds evolved from blind chance. Even if it did, if you want to check the validity of a hypothesis, you test it against reality - being the ultimate judge of right and wrong.
     
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    Pretty much same as Shredderbeam said, test it against what is known to be true.

    Their is no way? What do you think dreams are?
     
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    According to a naturalistic worldview, your mind is the result of chance and survival of the fittest. Maybe our mids lie to us and that helps us to survive. How do you know that you know anything? It seems to me that in atheism you have no assurance of knowledge itself.
     
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    "One can evade reality, but one cannot evade the consequences of evading reality."

    ~ Ayn Rand

    Ultimately, the sole judge of our knowledge is reality itself. We can trick ourselves into thinking that 2 + 2 = 5, but if we try to apply this to reality, we will be smacked by what is known as "metaphysical justice" (we may fire one artillery round at the enemy position, and pretend that we fired twenty - but we will be rudely brought back down to earth when they march up and shoot us).
     
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    I'll start by assuming that you're stupid.

    Our minds being the result of random chance holds no bearing over their power. Much like how penicillium was created ACCIDENTALLY, but found to have good use (against Anthrax) and was then reproduced. According to survival of the fittest, the best genes (those present in the "fittest") are passed down. The brain, although random, obviously is/has been passed down to the proceeding generations.

    Pretty simple concept?
     
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    Ok, if you were going to buy a computer, but it had software downloaded into it at random, would you still buy that computer? No, because you are not going to have true information on it. Our minds are the same way.
     
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    then according to evolution, where do complex emotions such as love or hate come from? Are they just certain chemical processes that happen in the brain? I really just want to know I'm not debating. I just want to know what they believe.
     
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    I don't think it's the same, at all.

    Our minds are not entirely random, but are influenced by the pressures of natural selection. A computer with entirely random programs, however, would not be influences in such a way.

    Yes, they are. It doesn't really make them any less significant, though.
     
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    That "one random brain" would be genetically implanted into future generations and passed on through SEX.
    It would no longer be random.
     
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