Mormans [Lik'em or hat'em]

See, violent cartoon comedy shows can be helpful.

 

1. I agree, it was probably because of health reasons.
2. How do you know ANYTHING from the bible is true? You can't say "how do you know" about religion. It''s based on faith, not fact. And Joseph Smith Showed them to 13 other people, only those he could trust. He also wrote down some of the inscriptions he found on the tablets and sent them to a professor in new york to tell if they were real inscriptions. The professor verified that they were. Remember, Joseph Smith was an uneducated farm boy.
3. We believe that after all the apostles died, the authority from god (priesthood) was not on the earth until Joseph Smith restored it.

And I didn't bring up my religion to get into a religious debate with everyone here at sythe, but to educate people before they go off of southpark knowledge. If you want, we can all have a go at me in the IRC sometime.

 

I doubt that mid-19th century religious pioneers knew much about the health effects of caffeine.

Faith is irrational. The instant you leave logic and appeal to faith, you concede the debate.

So Jesus was wrong when he said "the Gates of Hell shall not prevail against it"?

 

agh, you're new,.. .seriously don't fuck with shredder, he's debated this shit longer than you have. I would debate against him but him and I share most of the same views.

 

^read my sig? And yes I have argued with shredder before. He tends to bring up irrelevant points and debates in circles with no real knowledge of what he's talking about

God did, he's the one that told Joseph Smith

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...then why are we arguing about religion?

No. We believe we are the revived church that Jesus established.

 

So he says.

I'm trying to make you come to your senses.

Jesus built his church upon Paul, apparently, and said that the Gates of Hell would not prevail against it. He established his church, proclaiming that it would never fall, and last until he returned.

 

Never had a Mormon come to my door, only Jehovah's.

They are annoying, honestly.. What if I came to their house while they were eating dinner or something and started preaching to them?

Guarantee they wouldn't like it because they are hypocritical bastards.

 

Wow shredderbeam YOU HAVE DONE UR HOMEWORK! lol yea soo true what u said about thee caffeine =D they wouldnt have known that it was bad for our bodies back then it was told by the prophets thats how it came about the rule for banning smoking and alcohol and stuff like that =D

 

Yes, and Jesus also said he was the Son of God. Based on your logic, he would need a birth certificate and DNA tests for you to believe he really was

You think one person on the internet is going to change my mind? Ive argued this with people at school and such.

I do not consider my church to be the gates of hell. Nor is it. And can I have the Bible passage for the it would never fall, and last until he returned part?

 

Yea a mission is 2 years long and i dont think to go on a mission is required but its ment to be a big experience if you do. apparently going on a 2 year mission is the same as going to church for 50 years every sunday so yea plus to go on a mission u have to be active in the church and following the rules.

 

Lol o wow i thought like 90% of Utah was Mormon?

 

I played basketball and hung out with a few mormons and I think they are pretty cool. Havn't had one knock on my door though.

 

Any sort of empirical evidence, really - as long as it was a bit more than "well he said he was".

Consider my arguments and logic, not the arena where the debate takes place.

I did not say that your church was the gates of hell. The generally interpreted meaning of that passage is: "I found my church upon you, Peter, and it shall never be overcome by anything". If Jesus was right, then the Catholic Church is the One True Church. If Jesus was wrong, then the Son of God made a mistake.

 

If your saying the mormon curch is falling in numbers it is actually gaining numbers but many are getting unactive in the church but more are coming at the same time plus it would stil be many years before jesus would come back to earth.

 

Don't even have any of those on Gran Canaria..

(~XS keep it up, I'm cheering for you, the way you debate that is )

 

Annoying. Walking around selling me things.

 

LOl? mormons don't sell you things..in fact they give free things away about the church...

Lol ok well Jehovah's pretty much completely different to mormons on the way how they go door knocking and stuff.
Mormons go door knocking to see if your interested in there church and try to explain to you abit more about there church not invite u over for tea and hope u will come along..lol

 

LOlage Mormons are kul i meet some when i was like 12 and they played Bbal with me and my mates