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  1. Unread #101 - Aug 3, 2008 at 9:43 PM
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    Obama or McCain?

    Alright Joseph..

    First of all. McCain didn't say he WANTS to be in Iraq for 100 years, he just

    said if we HAVE to. Think about it like this. World War 2 was 60 years ago, but there is still troops in Japan. You can't just leave.

    Drilling in Alaska isn't pointless. It will take 5 years, we need to start somewhere. Instead of paying these Arabs who are taking the money and building Nuclear bombs.

    The fact that we are in a war makes John McCain 10x better than Obama because as I said, Obama has absolutely no experience. He hasn't done ONE thing to benefit America.

    Take a look at this.. Obamas 50 Lies:

    1.)” Selma Got Me Born ” - LIAR, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 -
    Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.
    2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - LIAR, he was a privileged, well educated youth,
    who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.
    3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - LIAR, he was part of one of the most
    corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.
    4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - LIAR, your cousin Raila Odinga
    has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in
    Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in Decades.
    5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - LIAR, she does her daily ” Salat “
    prayers at 5 a.m. according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity
    wouldn’t allow her to have been ‘one’ of 14 wives to 1 man.
    6.) My Name is African; Swahili - LIAR, your Name is Arabic and ‘Baraka’ ( from
    which Barack came ) means ‘blessed’ in that language . Hussein is also Arabic, and so is
    OBAMA .
    7.) I Never Practiced Islam - LIAR, you practiced it daily at school, where you
    were Registered as a MUSLIM and kept that Faith for 31 years, until your wife made you
    change, so You could run for Office.
    8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - LIAR, you were Registered as MUSLIM
    there, and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for ‘making faces’ ( check your own book ).
    9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - LIAR, not One teacher says, You could speak that
    Language.
    10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - LIAR, You
    were There from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn’t even speak the language.
    What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch Cartoons ?
    11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - LIAR, except for Africa ( surprise ) and
    the Middle East ( bigger surprise ), you have never been Anywhere else on the planet and have NO Experience with Our closest Allies .
    12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - LIAR, you were quite content
    in High School to be “Barry” Obama, no mention of KENYA and no mention of ‘ struggle to
    Identify ‘ - your classmates said You were just fine.
    13.) An EBONY Magazine Article Moved Me To Run For Office - LIAR, Ebony has yet to find the
    Article you mention in your Book . It doesn’t, and Never did , exist .
    14.) A LIFE Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - LIAR, Life has yet to
    find the Article you mention in your Book. It doesn’t, and never did, exist.
    15.) I Won’t Run On A National Ticket In ‘08 - LIAR, here you are, despite
    saying, “live” on TV, that You would Not have enough Experience by then, and You are all
    about, having: ‘Experience First’ .
    16.) Present Votes Are Common In Illinois - LIAR, they are common for YOU, but
    not many others have 130 ” NO VOTES ” .
    17.) Oops, I Mis-voted - LIAR, only when caught by Church groups and democrats,
    did you beg to change your mis-vote.
    18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - LIAR, you were a ” senior lecturer “, ON LEAVE .
    19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - LIAR, you were a “senior lecturer” ON LEAVE !
    20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - LIAR, You didn’t Write it,
    Introduce it, Change it, nor Create it!
    21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - LIAR, it took just 14 days from Start to
    Finish .
    22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - LIAR, your Bill was Rejected by Your own
    Party for its pandering and LACK of all Regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear
    Donor, EXELON from which, DAVID AXELROD came .
    23.) I Have Released My State Records - LIAR, as of March 2008, State Bills You
    sponsored or voted for, have Yet to be released, exposing all the ” special-interests pork “
    hidden, within .
    24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens mess - LIAR, you were Part of a large
    group of people who ‘remedied’ Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention Anyone else but
    Yourself in your books.
    25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - LIAR, your 111 economic policies were
    just combined into a Proposal which Lost 99 - 0 , and even YOU voted AGAINST Your own bill.
    26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - LIAR, even your own Supporters claim
    to have “not seen” BOLD action, on Your part.
    27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - LIAR, they were Not YOUR Bills,
    but rather handed ‘ to ‘ You after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist You in a
    Future bid for higher Office.
    28.) No One Contacted Canada About N.A.F.T.A. - LIAR, the Canadian Government issued
    the names and ” a Memo of ” the CONVERSATION, Your Campaign had with Them .
    29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - LIAR, you missed the Iran Resolution Vote on
    Terrorism and your good friend ALI ABUNIMAH supports the Destruction of Israel.
    30.) I Am Not Acting As President, Yet - LIAR, after the N.A.F.T.A. Memo, a dead
    terrorist in the F.A.R.C. in Colombia, was found with a letter stating how You and he, were
    working Together on getting F.A.R.C. recognized Officially.
    31.) I Didn’t Run Ads In Florida - LIAR, you allowed National ads to run 8-12
    times per Day, for TWO weeks - and you still : Lost .
    32.) I Won Michigan - LIAR, No You Didn’t.
    33.) I won Nevada - LIAR, NO You did NOT.
    34.) I Want All Votes To Count - LIAR, you said: ” let the Delegates decide “.
    35.) I Want Americans To Decide - LIAR, you prefer Caucuses that Limit the Vote,
    Confuse the voters, Force a Public vote, and only operate during Small ‘windows’ of time .
    36.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - LIAR, you passed 26 ; most of which
    you didn’t write Yourself.
    37.) My Campaign Was Extorted By A Friend - LIAR, that friend is threatening to
    sue if you Do Not stop Saying this. ( Obama ‘has’ stopped saying this. )
    38.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - LIAR, you used “Tactics” to eliminate
    Alice PALMER from running against you.
    39.) I Don’t Take P.A.C. Money - LIAR, you take loads of it.
    40.) I don’t ‘have’ Lobbysists - LIAR, you have over 47 Lobbyists, and counting.
    41.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Advertisement - LIAR, your own campaign
    worker made the ad’ on his Apple in one afternoon !
    42.) My Campaign Never Took Over MySpace - LIAR, Tom who started MySpace issued
    a Warning about this advertising, to MySpace clients.
    43.) I Inspire People With My Words - LIAR, you inspire people with OTHER
    people’s Words.
    44.) I Have Passed Bills In The U. S. Senate - LIAR, you have passed “A BILL”, in the U. S. Senate - for Africa, which shows YOUR priorities.
    45.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - LIAR, you weren’t ‘in Office’ to vote against it, unlike Kucinich who seems to be out gutting You, Obama ; AND, you have voted to Fund it Every single time . You also seem to be ’stepping back’, from your Departure date - AGAIN .
    46.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - LIAR, your ‘plan’ leaves us All to Pay the narrow 15,000,000 who ‘don’t have to’ Buy it.
    47.) I Only Found Out About My Investment Conflicts Via Mail - LIAR, both Companies, You cite as having sent you letters about this Conflict, have ” No Record ” of Any such letter ever being created, or sent.
    48.) I Am As Patriotic As Anyone - LIAR, you won’t wear a Flag pin and you don’t put your hand over your heart during the National Anthem.
    49.) My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country - LIAR, your wife’s words follow lock-step in the vein of WRIGHT and FARRAHKAN, in relation to their Contempt and hatred of America .
    50.) WAL-MART Is a Company I Wouldn’t Support - LIAR, your WIFE has received nearly a Quarter of a Million dollars through ” TREEHOUSE “, which is connected to Wal-Mart.
     
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    Obama or McCain?

    At less Obama does not think the economy is in a Mental Recession and the nation is a bunch of winners.

    McCain says he never raise taxes...err wait i might...I'm not sure so much for straight talk express.

    McCain's a liar.

    It's sad, but true.

    Ann Coulter just said so too.

    Ann, January 30, 2008: "...McCain lies a lot...."

    Ann elaborated:

    "Recently, McCain responded to Mitt Romney's statement that he understood the economy based on his many years in the private sector by claiming Romney had said a military career is not a 'real job.'

    http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/30563.html'
     
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    Obama or McCain?

  7. Unread #104 - Aug 3, 2008 at 10:31 PM
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    Obama or McCain?

    LOL^

    Actually.. Obama wants to raise taxes on everyone who makes over 250,000. So lets say I run a business. Obama will raise higher taxes on my business. Therefore the workers get payed less.. and we go in debt. You need to think it through. Also, If I work hard for my money. I mean I work HARD. And someone else sits on their asses all day, should I be giving them my money? No!
     
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    Obama or McCain?

    Yet during the Clinton year with the higher taxes people had more money to spend at the business.
     
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    Obama or McCain?

    Thats because nothing bad was happening. Clinton was about to get impeached also.
     
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    Obama or McCain?

    Not over lying about a reason for war? or lying to the public but rather having sex in the oval office. :( bush should be impeached.
     
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    Obama or McCain?

    Enlighten me on how Bush is lieing.
     
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    Obama or McCain?

    Haha Julukesy, a couple of those "top Obama lies" are completely biased and incorrect. For example, the word "salat" has no connection to the Muslim religion. I'm a Christian and I speak Arabic, and I can tell you for damn sure "salat" means prayer, no matter what religion you are.
    LOL @ your attempt to use other sources to try to support your argument.
     
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    Obama or McCain?

    McCain because Obama does cocky stuff like when he was in Europe he skipped a visit to injured US soldiers to go to a gym?
     
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    Obama or McCain?

    They aren't completely biased, for the most part they are correct. YOU win the arguement if you tell me what Obama has done to gain trust. OR if he has done ANTYHING!
     
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    Obama or McCain?

    Yep. i couldn't believe he would pull something like that.
     
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    Obama or McCain?

    Julukesy, first of all this is not, in my mind, considered an argument, so get that out of your head. This is simply an intelligent discussion in which I share my opinions with you.

    What has Barack Obama done? He has graduated from Harvard Law. There.
     
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    Obama or McCain?

    He's graduated from Harvard law. Ok. But I know others who have done that. Does that mean they can run for president? not exactly. He's only been in senate for 2 years, and has completed nothing.
     
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    Obama or McCain?

    Obama is wish washy, I'd rather have somthing done then nothing done. So far he has shown nothing more then he's a windbag who will go with the tide just so he can get to the top. McCain is standing strong and is taking the beating, America needs a strong leader not a push over.
     
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    Obama or McCain?

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    Obama or McCain?

    You can't assume that he has done absolutely nothing in the Senate, unless you provide proper documentation that he in fact did nothing for those two years. And you only asked me to tell you one thing he has done, and I did.

    Again, you can't just tell me he has done nothing in the Senate, it's physically impossible for a senator to do absolutely nothing while in office.

    rasmussenreports.com, seriously? and McCain is up by - at most - 1 percentage point, a completely insignificant value.
     
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    Obama or McCain?

    McCain was behind it.
     
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    @ Christmas:

    When I tell you he did nothing in office I mean he didn't pass any of his own bills, make any decisions, or do anything while he was in office. How is that impossible? He didn't complete anything. Please tell me one thing Obama has done to benefit America. I know people who went to Harvard Law, does that mean they can run for president?

    @ Louis:

    I understand McCain was behind the commercial. what's your point?
     
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    Obama or McCain?

    Personally, I don't care if you know anyone who 'went' to Harvard Law. There is no crucial connection between Obama's graduation of Harvard Law and his ability to run for president. But if you read your own posts, you will see that you asked me for one thing Obama has done. So I told you one thing he has done. End of discussion.
     
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