the best language of all

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the best language of all
  1. Unread #1 - Jul 30, 2008 at 7:28 PM
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    the best language of all

    well i want to learn a programming language to well, make programs lol

    i want to know one that can do pretty much anything so i don't have to know a several. basicly i want to learn the most usfull one

    (idk how hard it is, i can learn it if i want to)
     
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    the best language of all

    Threads like this are all too common. There is no "best" language. It all depends on what you need to do, and the kind of application you want to make.

    For web based programming, I would say PHP without a doubt.
    For programming off of the web, like making programs, that is up for debate.

    I say Python as a first language, because it's really simple, yet powerful. However, as you go on, you'll see that not everything is possible in Python. You can learn Java because it's compatible on every system that has Java installed, and that's almost any computer. File size may be an issue, though.

    Each language has its ups and downs, and depending on the ones that you like, you should choose that language.
     
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    I alredy know hello world in java and a little more. could you tell me where to start with python?
     
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    the best language of all

    What do you want to be able to do with the language? Thats what you should think about first.
     
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    the best language of all

    the standard of learning computer programming would probably fall under C, you should try that out, as java/c++/c sharp all have the building blocks of C.

    Now if you want to do things that are web constructed, then php is free and relatively easy to learn. For scripting languages a great resource would be http://w3schools.com
     
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    Python is good to help you get an idea of programming off of the web, without going too deep into it, so if you don't like it, you won't have wasted much time.

    However, Python is not a good idea for "real world" programming, as demand for Python programmers is not high, and not many widely used apps are completely written in Python.

    Some large companies, like Google, make use of Python a lot, but I'm not sure about how they hire people for it or how it works on their side. They use Python for the web, though.
     
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    the best language of all

    Python is very powerful, no one is denying that, but I suggest that he learns something that will continue to expand his knowledge in the future and not drive him to a dead end if he dislikes it. The only experience I have with python is the django framework, and I have to say I was impressed. But in all reality I think python should be something you learn for a task oriented goal, not as a introduction course. Now if you REALLY wanted to learn computer science the "correct way" then I would suggest dr.scheme. It's what MIT starts off with anyhow, and is a great tool to introduce the concepts of designing computer programs. (It is in prefix notation)
     
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    the best language of all

    maby ill just continue learning java and start a c language (what one would you guys say is more powerfull)
     
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    the best language of all

    To be honest, I would say Java, between the two you suggested. All of Java is cross-platform, meaning you only write code once, and it'll work anywhere. C can be cross-platform, but that generally requires rewriting your code here and there.
     
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    the best language of all

    It is important to realize that java is built upon C, therefore you cannot compare which is more powerful (obviously java). Now if you want to know the trade offs between java and c++ then thats a different story. You can learn one or the other, as long as you understand the concept behind it. (Something to look out for though is that java needs to be installed on client machines for it to work, as opposed to c++ which can be compiled as an exe, and many OS comes along with the files it needs)
     
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    the best language of all

    C is compatible with C++ compilers. Therefore, you can use both if you use a C++ compiler.
     
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    the best language of all

    Wanna make a website?
    HTML, PHP, Javascript, Flash, CSS
    Wanna make a game?
    C Programs, Java, etc.
    Business?
    Excel has it all.


    C++ is very complicated, I'd start with Java, because it's way easier, but C++ can do way more.
    HTML is a good way to start learning basic coding, and Flash is more advanced and used to make a reallllly nice website..
     
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    the best language of all

    What do i need to get started with c++? (all the programs i will need)

    and does any1 know of a good tut?
     
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    the best language of all

    I hope you realise that any language can be complicated - even English. Especially English.

    You need a compiler. I take it you would prefer an IDE too. I recommend CodeBlocks, you can download it for free at http://codeblocks.org/. It has support for Microsoft Visual C projects, and Dev-C++ projects.

    A good tutorial? I suggest an ebook. I'll link you to both a torrent containing ebooks, and an online guide.

    Torrent: http://www.torrentbox.com/download/152212/ d-mininova.org-b Almost 500 Computer Ebooks.torrent

    Online: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/

    Have fun.
     
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    the best language of all

    Lol, how did you manage to contradict yourself so badly? Since Java is BUILT on C, by what logic would it be more powerful (obviously it isn't).
     
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    the best language of all

    Java is built upon C++, therefore it is built WITH C++. Therefore, Java is less useful, and definitely less powerful than the former. Java also runs on bytecode, making execution time horribly slow, and the application is really quite unsecure. For example, why do you think the RuneScape applet is so "hackable"? How do you think proper bots work?
     
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