Hot_el2 scammed by recovering account.

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Hot_el2 scammed by recovering account.
  1. Unread #1 - Sep 30, 2018 at 1:54 AM
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    Hot_el2 scammed by recovering account.

    Scammer's profile link:
    @Hot_el2

    Explanation of the trade:
    I was MMing a trade between @Hot_el2 and @Joshua Smith.
    The buyer ( @Joshua Smith ) was buying a fortnite account from the seller ( @Hot_el2 ) for 200m 07 gold.

    How they scammed:
    The buyer and seller both agreed that I would middleman the trade as followed:
    1- Seller will send EPIC login details (online log in for fortnite account) to me, and I will secure the account with a different password.
    2- Buyer will deliver 200m 07 gold payment to seller.
    3- Seller will confirm he has received the 200m 07 gold from buyer.
    4- I will give the account details to the buyer.
    5- Both parties will confirm full delivery.


    After I delivered the account details to the buyer, the buyer was able to log into the account and after about 15 seconds of being on the account it was locked.

    The seller agreed to submit a recovery request to have the account unlocked and change the email address it was linked to.

    The seller was able to change the email, but did not refund the 200m 07 gold or deliver the new log in details for the account.




    Proof that it's their Discord or Skype:

    middleman thread order form:
    Buyer ( @Joshua Smith ):


    Seller ( @Hot_el2 ):



    Discord ID + Unique Discord ID or Skype profile ID & conversation pictures:
    Other relevant trade screenshots:




    Buyer's Discord ID in chat:

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    Seller's Discord ID in chat:

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    Seller delivering account details and stating that gmail account linked ([email protected]) was disabled:

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    I confirmed I changed the password of the account + Seller confirming receiving 200m 07 payment from the buyer:

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    Buyer states he is unable to log into Gmail account linked with account:

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    Account gets locked while in buyer's possesion:

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    Account is unlocked by Seller:

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    Seller says he will change the email to Jjdaballa200812, which does not even exist.

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    In closing: Seller claims account has been succefully recovered ("It's already fixed") and just need to wait for an email change to go through.

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    The buyer also reached out to the seller and the story changed to the buyer already had access so the Seller beleives he is not liable to recover the account, which he already admitted to recovering it and was suppose to be sending the email to log in.

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    I also reached out to the seller for any updates and no response. Be advised the seller has been online multiple times today as well with no response.

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  3. Unread #2 - Sep 30, 2018 at 2:30 AM
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    Hot_el2 scammed by recovering account.

    Thank you for this Stud. Professional, understanding, and goes out his way to help in a situation that isn’t his fault. Lets shoot for more Studs in the community and less Hot_el2’s
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Sep 30, 2018 at 12:38 PM
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    Hot_el2 scammed by recovering account.

    Scammer has officially viewed the thread, as well responded on Discord with the same unhelpful, and sad excuse.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Sep 30, 2018 at 3:47 PM
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    Hot_el2 scammed by recovering account.

    User DNT'd, @Hot_el2 would you like to make this right?
     
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  9. Unread #5 - Sep 30, 2018 at 4:55 PM
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    Hot_el2 scammed by recovering account.

    Buyer had access to the account got locked because of some reason on his end submitted the account to be unlocked which worked i had requested a email change which can take days to complete

    Please note i stated that i am not responsible for anything that happens to the account Joshua had agreed that its on his end
     
  11. Unread #6 - Sep 30, 2018 at 5:21 PM
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    Hot_el2 scammed by recovering account.

    Since the beginning I was under the impression the account was Full Access, and I would get the email. Then after the GP is traded all of a sudden the "Account is not full access and the email is disabled" which is not true to what was stated originally, and the email is indeed still accessible.

    Now Hot_el2 tried to cover his tracks and edited the messages in Discord where it was stated he had full Access of the account... I will attach those below.

    Discord Edited Message Instances :

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    In regards to the other statement about the Email, it was stated to me and Stud that it was a Disabled gmail that used to be a school email, but oddly enough Google still recognizes it as a email that is in access.

    Proof Email is active :

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    This is what an inactive or disabled gmail would say :

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    In my opinion Hot_el2 has done more than enough to show shady behavior and scammer tendencies, From lying about emails, to not even letting stud hold 200m OSRS GP when account was locked No more than 10 seconds after trade, he continues to show a careless, and unhelpful attitude while participating in trades.

    All in all i'd like to thank you for recognizing this thread and trying to help officiate an agreement for us to come to, I contacted Zach (Hot_el2), and let him know if he refunds 125m (75m less than the trade value) I will be happy, and satisfied with this "trade".... If he can agree to that i'd like to see no one penalized, and us moving on to other more important things in the community.
     
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    Last edited: Sep 30, 2018
  13. Unread #7 - Sep 30, 2018 at 5:45 PM
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    Hot_el2 scammed by recovering account.

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  15. Unread #8 - Oct 1, 2018 at 10:33 AM
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    Hot_el2 scammed by recovering account.

    Btw I think it should be noted that the OSRS user that I traded the GP too was “Jumpman” and a user named xJumpman liked the reply in which I was thanking Stud on this thread... I do believe this is another one of his Sythe accounts, although I’m not 100% sure.... Hot_el2 has also refused to respond about the refund and it looks like he is going to be unwilling to agree to ur request.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Oct 1, 2018 at 6:08 PM
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    Hot_el2 scammed by recovering account.

    Has there been any progress to this @Joshua Smith? As for the jumpman claim you would need to provide more evidence of that. A similar name is not enough.
     
  19. Unread #10 - Oct 1, 2018 at 6:29 PM
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    Hot_el2 scammed by recovering account.

    I understand just thought I would note it so the people who viewed would be cautious... Anyways I guess that’s it, no word from his end, I’m assuming I’m just out 200m at this point.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Oct 2, 2018 at 3:36 PM
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    Hot_el2 scammed by recovering account.

    No response, user has been banned. I am sorry for your loss @Joshua Smith.

    Total amount scammed: 200M 07
     
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