[Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

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[Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed
  1. Unread #41 - Sep 21, 2018 at 9:59 PM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    we should start chopping off the arms of people who steal lol
     
  3. Unread #42 - Sep 21, 2018 at 10:04 PM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    The general understanding of the act "doxing" is not necessary when it comes to scammers.

    As said before, info to help prevent scams such as identifiable online ID's/accounts is totally fine but involving irl safety or friends/family is unnecessary.
     
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  5. Unread #43 - Sep 21, 2018 at 10:05 PM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    No... this is not game of thrones - We do not parade people through the streets so to speak to absolve them of their sins(Scamming in this case).

    OP is the high sparrow and everyone supporting this is his minions.
     
  7. Unread #44 - Sep 21, 2018 at 11:12 PM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    Doxxing a banned member on discord as far as I know is still bannable as it is part of sythe
     
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    This is how people get killed, no thanks.
     
  11. Unread #46 - Sep 22, 2018 at 12:13 AM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    I don't support this. People make rash decisions and make mistakes, this would discourage users from pardoning as they would be attacked.

    We have many options for users to trade safely and minimize getting scammed, however, most decide not to follow the warnings they are given and make a very poor decisions.
     
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  13. Unread #47 - Sep 22, 2018 at 12:19 AM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    You and I have been around for about the same time, can you actually say people make rash decisions? There are people who make decisions in the past that effect their future, both of us have pardoned even lmfao. We all make conscious decisions, that can effect us negatively. If people have a possible resolution in possibly doxxing someone for a crime they have committed is that the worst thing that they could do? And perhaps if this were to become a rule (allowing of doxxing), people wouldn't make the decision to scam in the first place as it could effect their livelihood in general? I'm just trying to be open minded here.
     
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  15. Unread #48 - Sep 22, 2018 at 12:25 AM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    Because mistakes happen and people change. Hunting them down and potentially ruining their lives/family members is not something I would be okay with. If I had a dumb cousin do stupid stuff online, I would hope people would understand that his actions do not reflect my own.
     
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  17. Unread #49 - Sep 22, 2018 at 12:31 AM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    I support it to be honest. I bought an account, and the guy ended up recovering it. He gave it back after I managed to email him through the email he had on the account prior because he blocked me on Discord. After getting it back, he recovered it again shortly there after. I paid and had proof of everything, how come we can't dox someone who took our real life money? Not no virtual currency, but hard earned dollars... Now im out my money and an account. shoot dox them, eye for and eye. dont do wrong, wont get doxxed.
     
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  19. Unread #50 - Sep 22, 2018 at 12:53 AM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    I agree that mistakes happen, but every action should have a consequence, especially when its a reoccurring incident.
    When you steal something from a store and the police show up to the scene, they don't say "Let's give him another chance."

    As for their families, their dox would not be posted, thus the only way they'd be involved is if someone went out of their way to target them using the scammers info. Even in that case, they'd probably just inform that family member what the scammer is doing and hope they understand.

    On the other hand, you can't think too highly of a family that raised someone to scam others. They likely share the same ideals as the scammer and would do the same thing in their shoes. I've personally experienced this after I spoke to the father of a boy who scammed me for $900. He showed no sympathy and just tried to avoid the whole situation, knowing his son stole from me.
     
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  21. Unread #51 - Sep 22, 2018 at 12:56 AM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    Added poll btw
     
  23. Unread #52 - Sep 22, 2018 at 2:56 AM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    Do you think you would have pardoned if we gave your victims your personal information so they could do any amount of damage to you and your family they deemed necessary?

    In your pardon you specifically cite: "7 years ago I scammed a user for a $10 membership code. This event is not a reflection of who I am or the moral code I follow" This would reinforce what I said earlier, people change and grow up. Plenty of people make stupid decisions, but we should give them a chance to make it right. Which, by the looks of your case (and many others), was the right decision. I don't think i'm going to be able to change your mind, but I think you should entertain the ideas of the other side.
     
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  25. Unread #53 - Sep 22, 2018 at 3:10 AM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    Pendelum, I respect you but bringing up my pardon was completely irrelevant and unnecessary.
    In my situation, I scammed for ~ $35 over 7 years ago, paid back each victim, and have done many successful deals since.
    Compare this to the situation of my impostor, who is a grown man (I was a child during my scam) scamming $100+ daily and feeling no remorse.
    You'll see the difference and the reason as to why I created this suggestion.

    But to answer your question: Yes, I would have still pardoned. In fact, if my personal information was posted on the site I would have been more inclined to pardon.
     
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  27. Unread #54 - Sep 22, 2018 at 3:48 AM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    Sorry, I've been reading through this thread and your whole argument is to be able to punish SCAMMERS who have SCAMMED on this website, so him bringing up your scam situation is no where near "irrelevant" and "unnecessary" like you claim because you are/were in fact, a scammer yourself, you're literally just upset at the fact that you got used as a valid example.


    This is infact the "irrelevant" and "unnecessary" comment in this situation as it doesn't matter how much, how long ago or how many deals you've done since, the ultimatum is that you scammed, so you're agreeing that because of this, all of your personal information including: name, home address, personal photos, phone numbers and any other information should have been allowed to be posted on this forum, there is no exception or alternative for what your suggestion entails.

    Look how you're trying to justify your scamming situation in every line of your response now.

    S
    o what? Your initial suggestion states
    Whereas if your suggestion stated something like "I'd like to suggest that doxing of scammers be allowed, in cases where the scammer has scammed a significant amount of money, or is a recurring offender." You may have more leverage to call his comments irrelevant.


    This is just a biased response based on your initial suggestion because anyone who scams on an online forum is willing to have their account banned for their actions, or they wouldn't do it, so if you're already willing to be banned for scamming with the possibility of never being able to return WITHOUT all of your information being posted, then why would having all of your personal information posted after scamming entice you to want to come back? You don't make any sense.


    In conclusion, your suggestion is poorly conducted and incredibly vague in terms of the actual result your looking for if it's indeed genuine and therefore I don't have a response to the initial OP, you should have just posted a thread asking why you're not allowed to post your imposters personal information because that's all your real intention is, but now your thread got a little attention and some inviting responses you're just running with it, it's annoying to read.
     
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  29. Unread #55 - Sep 22, 2018 at 4:13 AM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    Shocked at how many people think this is a good idea/support this lol.

    We should just allow mods to post ip's of scammers publicly as well as their irl address and full name as well as their familys facebooks/personal info because he took 25m 07 from me. Next time don't be a dumb fuck and get scammed holy. You fr saying because YOU were stupid someone elses family should have to deal with some dumb shit. It doesn't even just effect the 16 year old kid who scammed you. It effects his little brother, his single mom, his neighbors. Grow up and fuck off lol
     
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  31. Unread #56 - Sep 22, 2018 at 4:19 AM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    Doxing often causes permanent damage that cannot be reversed. A 16 y/o kid steals some gold, and you'd have his reputation permanently damaged for life when it's likely/possible he'll soon regret that decision and pay back down the road? Or maybe his family's business suffers. Or maybe he's SWAT'd. Or maybe him and his loved ones are harassed by trolls? Even if you were somehow okay with causing all that damage to the scammer kid, you'd also be causing damage to the innocent people close to him.

    I question the character of anyone who'd support hurting the innocent merely out of the desire for revenge. That sounds dramatic, but it's not far fetched or overstating what it means to dox people with malicious people out there happy to ruin people's lives for fun.

    I don't think fighting a lighter with a flamethrower will reduce the flames.

    Terrible suggestion imo. Always been against any form of doxing to anyone.
     
  33. Unread #57 - Sep 22, 2018 at 4:20 AM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    No Support.

    Views on doxing have always been the same, It's a terrible thing and just leads to very toxic circumstances, As Codeineking said, With information about someone you can grab pretty much anything from Facebook, address etc, Which if made public and falling into the hands of malicious people will more often than not lead to bullying and bullying of those around that person.

    Multiple people shouldn't have to suffer for one greedy ass's issue.
     
  35. Unread #58 - Sep 22, 2018 at 4:31 AM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    You're an actual moron.

    A child who stole candy from a store wouldn't be considered a thief 7 years later if he learned from the incident. That same child would, however, be considered a thief if he continued to steal over the years leading up to present day.

    You don't know the first thing about me, all your comments come straight out of your ass. The impostor does not impact me in any way, as I do not lose money, nor is my reputation affected.

    Unlike you, my parent's love me and I have a social life so I don't need to come online to get attention. I made this suggestion to try and prevent scams that occur on this forum, as many scammers would not sacrifice having their personal information publicly posted in exchange for a quick buck.

    You registered 4 months ago so you really are clueless about the scams that occur on this forum. Either that, or you're a ban evader, which seems like the most reasonable assumption.

    Oh and it's funny how my thread was annoying enough to read that you took the time to respond to each and every one of my comments.
     
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  37. Unread #59 - Sep 22, 2018 at 4:39 AM
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    [Denied] Suggestion: Allow Scammers to be Doxed

    But there are people who scam every day for years, years ago i have found information of some1 who runs like 400 impostor accounts, does this look like an innocent 16year old to you?
     
  39. Unread #60 - Sep 22, 2018 at 4:41 AM
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    If you read my post, you'd know I said if you are okay with harming the scammer, then think past that and consider the innocent people connected to the scammer you'd be harming.
     
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