"But you call me a racist"

i think its the fact that debt went unpaid that really pisses off most african americans. Do you suppose you kill someone then say oh it was 50 years ago forget about it. It still happened, but then again the perso nwho killed that person is now dead but he's your father. I think most black people would feel better if whites stop saying its not my fault and say im sorry for what my ancestors did to your ancestors thats the only reperations we need really.

 

Theres a difference between 50 years ago, and ~300 years ago.

Nobody is alive today that was alive back then.

 

well even if i said it was 130 years ago, it wouldnt make a difference. I'm wondering why your still trying to argue a point to me, i know the facts, i'm trying to get my point across now. I've acknowledged your opinion, now i'd like you to just mind this one statement please.

You can forget everything i've posted on this thread before if you read this one statement.

" As a good logical loving human being, you are expected to protect your family and their good name. We acknowledge that slavery was around in early America, do we approve of it, of course not, is there anything we can do about it, of course not... but there has been constant reminders all through the 20th century of the occurance and the inequalities that african americans still had to endure eventhough they've been declared "free". This constant reminder has left blacks racially paranoid. Now slavery may have ended "300 years ago" but inequality had lived long after, and racism sadly has never gone away. Now it is my dream like MLK jr.'s that we can all just accept eachother as we do those of our own race. I guess this is easier for me to say since i am bi-racial therefore i can see both sides. " thanks for reading, especially you shakaka. -TPH

 

So am I wrong to look at blacks as a race and judge them by what they've done through history and still do? Am I wrong to say the average white is a standard diviation smarter than a black AS A RACE?

And now commence the "blacks wern't given an equal opportunity."

And I say "they've struggled all throughout history, even before America was even part of the known world whites were educating themselves and blacks were what?" and IQ isn't based on your education. There's a reason your IQ does not change much from the day your 8 to the day you're 60.

Bah, I'm rambling but you get the idea.

 

Honestly im tired oif arguing with you. You are trying to make your point valid by throwing out fake statistics. i sugguest you get real statistics.

yeah the average white person does have a better education than a black person in the ghetto... good observation chump.

but the average black person has a better education than a trailer park white person.

thats a fact ^^

i am no longer reading or acknowledging your opinion jeb , i've lost all respect for you.

 

You're taking two extremes and comparing them..

ie: 'trailer trash' and 'average black person' and 'black person in the ghetto' and 'average white person.'

Take the two averages, average black and white person. Statistically, white people are more successful and have a better education.

Also, choosing to ignores ones relevant opinions is a sign of denial and weakness in an argument.

 

I'm ignoring his opinion because he's no longer putting up a logical response, he's just typing random statistics.

well if he wasn't gonig to generalize the background of the "black" then i was.

and that was a very very incorrect response.

The basis of your education and your success is primarily based on the location where you attend school and the schools funding.
The fact is more blacks are poorer and live in poorer neighborhoods where education is bad and the dropout rates are high due to lack of determination mostly brought on by less curricular activities and sports provided by the school. But the whites who attend those school aren't successfull either.

*sigh* , i am very disappointed that you don't look past stereotypes and look at the real statistics.

 

You're proving my point the more you try to prove your own points to be completely honest. Blacks could be just as successful, and their neighborhoods could be just as nice as white neighborhoods if they weren't so damn stubborn. They are born, and taught to fend for themselves and not not take anything from anybody. However, the blacks who grow up around whites tend to be more successful. Explain that.

 

LOL their neighborhoods could be nicer if they weren't so stubborn? sutbborn about what exactly?

and not just any whites but higher class whites. If they were in the same neighborhood as low class whites that wouldn't be the case.

but like i said before it's the neighborhood and upbringing, therefore it's the individual not the race in general.

 

Blacks AS A WHOLE (this meaning ghetto blacks rich blacks etc) are not as smart as whites AS A WHOLE (meaning trailer trash to lawyers). By smart I mean their IQ and achievements throughout history.

The average IQ of a white in America is 105.
The average IQ of a black in America is 85.
The average IQ of a black outside of America is 70.
The average cranial capacity of a white is larger than that of a black.
The average cranial capacity of an Asian is the largest of all. No surprise here that they have the highest IQs on average.

Point being, blacks have lower IQs than whites. It is no coincidence that whites are more successful.
Oh, you want something to prove whites are more successful?
Check the US Census Press Releases, white households make an average $48000 a yr vs blacks average of $30000. That's 37.5% more.



All my statistics can be backed up...here's a few more on crime while I'm at it.

More than 1,600 Whites are murdered by Blacks each year.

Blacks murder Whites at 18 times the rate Whites murder Blacks.

In the last 30 years, 170 million violent and nonviolent crimes were committed by Blacks against Whites in the U.S.

Blacks under 18 are more than 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than Whites the same age.

Some 90% of the victims of race crimes are Whites.

Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than Whites, although they comprise only one-seventh of the White population.

On a per-capita basis, blacks commit 50 times more violent crimes than Whites.

1.3 million of the 6.6 million violent crimes committed in the U.S. each year are interracial.

 

The fact that you classed the races into groups makes you racist.

 

you

are

a

dumbass.

 

Well now posting things like that just really doesn't help anything here. Sure maybe you have a point saying those statistics are a bunch of bullshit but I wouldn't resort to name calling. Maybe he is a bigot and a racist but he is still entitled to that opinion no matter how horrific it sounds.

jebckr -
Did those statics mainly come from that old study called the Color of Crime? They sound somewhat similar if I remember correctly.

 

I'd like to see the sources for that bit of information Jeb. You may take this as an insult, but you are living proof that those statistics are incorrect.

how long ago were those statistics taken?

and where is the source?

and your saying a bigger head means you're smarter?

neanderthals had bigger heads and brains than the cro-magnon ( latest evolution of human life a.ka. us) , so your saying neanderthals were smart than the human today??

im insulted by your lack of research

 

Well, he has statistics backing up his argument.

Where is your proof to say he is a dumbass?

I guess you are the dumbass.

Income - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21759075/

IQ - http://farm1.static.flickr.com/204/468829325_98bc4ef24f.jpg (not exact, but shows obvious differences)

Crime - http://www.racismeantiblanc.bizland.com/005/06-02.htm

Those are just general sources I found in about 5 minutes of searching, I'm sure if you looked into it (like I'm sure Jeb has); you would find exactly what he posted.

 

I agree. I'm sick of blacks bringing up all the old stuff about slavery etc. Especially P. Diddy.. have any of you heard his latest bitch about non black super heroes and why Hancock is the shit?

 

Thank you for pointing out that I'm a racist. I do judge races by what they do as races. Unfortunately, we are not all the same...

No sir, you are. You see this forum is designed for this type of debate. If you have a problem with my post, please explain to me what it is. You have done nothing but waste a post on this thread with your ignorance.

Yes, you’re right. I should cite my statistics, although if you were to google any of the points I made you would get enough results to keep you busy for weeks.
IQ seems to be the most important, as everything else is a direct result of it.
It’s a fact that the average IQ of blacks is and has been between 15 and 18 points below the average IQ of whites.
www.news-medical.net/?id=9530
library.flawlesslogic.com/iq.htm
www.reason.com/news/show/116991.html
www.vdare.com/sailer/061126_iq.htm
www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-15point.htm

This is one of the better articles, as it has a few sub articles giving the argument from both sides on whether the lower IQ is genetic or due to lack of education.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence



As far as average income or the rate of crime, just check www.DemographicsNow.com or something to that nature.

 

The race-IQ issue is probably attributable to the tendency of blacks to be of a lower socio-economic class than whites (a legacy of slavery).

 

If we go back to a time before slavery we still find flourishing cultures in Europe and find that blacks are doing what?

 

Establishing kingdoms: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=african+kingdoms&btnG=Google+Search