A friend has been banned

I get what ur saying, but i assure you its NOT gambling because if it was considered gambling than it would be illegal by internet laws as jagex doesnt have a gambling licence.

edit: same reason why rs3 lootboxes arent gambling however european laws try to ban it. would be awsome many games would have to change their business model if not all. ea with pack opening. rocketleague crates. csgo crates. the list is fucking endless. would be amazing to see the lottery of every game gone.

 

Actually this is incorrect, Jagex does acknowledge bonds are a form of legal RWT and do acknowledge gold has value, how you ask?

Bonds have a price floor, Mod ash confirmed on a twitch stream that bonds alch value cannot change from what it is and their value in the G.E cannot go below 1.5M, essentially forcing the price to always be above 1.5M for players, this actually has a massive economic effect on the price of RS gold and how RWT lines up with bonds, if im not mistaken the introduction of bonds is originally what caused gold to go down so much, they were released in March 2015 for like $4.99 or $5.99 or whatever and at the time with their price floor of 1.5M and the fact they were going for like 2-3M essentially forced gold down from the $2.00+ range. I know for a time it was cheaper to buy bonds from Jagex than sell the bonds for gold than it was to buy gold, this obviously forced gold down. Why buy 3M for $6 from a illegal RWT site if you can buy a bond worth 3m from jagex for $4.99?

You could argue that bonds are the single strongest tool jagex has to control gold prices and RWT. You could also argue that they essentially began the downfall of the OSRS economy when Jagex started controlling it.

Fun fact.

 

You need a gambling licence to gamble real money just because its not real doesnt mean its not gambling. You dont need a gambling licence to gamble bitcoins and that has real value.

 

THEY STILL NO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OSRS GP HAS VALUE THAT WAS MY POINT.

of fucking cours bonds have value in game. i never argued that.

 

When they made the well for gp they made 1m to $1 and at that time gp was $1/pm

 

Gambling is the wagering of money or something of value (referred to as "the stakes") on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning money or material goods. Gambling thus requires three elements be present: consideration, chance and prize.[1] The outcome of the wager is often immediate, such as a single roll of dice, a spin of a roulette wheel, or a horse crossing the finish line, but longer time frames are also common, allowing wagers on the outcome of a future sports contest or even an entire sports season

the wagering of money or something of VALUE. osrs doesnt have any value so its not gambling. end of discussion ez pz that simple.

 

osrsgp has value in runescape are you dense? And gp does have value just bc RS says it doesnt doesnt mean it doesnt you can legit sell it for irl which means it has value. Thats like saying drugs have no value because its illegal

 

Dude I don’t know what ur trying to prove to me, but ur not changing my mind. The duel arena is NOT considered gambling end of discussion.

 

Gambling end of discussion

 

Dude I don’t know what ur trying to prove to me, but ur not changing my mind. The duel arena is NOT considered gambling end of discussion.

The only thing that makes the duel arena look like a sand casino is because people with the same combat giving them a 50/50 chance or x stakers odd stakers whatever stake large amounts of money and RWT it because other people give value to it. Still doesn’t make the duel arena gambling on itself you stupid man!!!

 

You keep bring RWT into it you dont need "real money" to make something gambling.. RUNESCAPE GOLD HAS VALUE IN RUNESCAPE YOU CAN BUY ITEMS WITH IT... Runescape is its own world with its own currency that you can GAMBLE.... Damn how hard is this to understand lmfao

 

50k or a growing job you love doing that has been putting food on your table for years. 50k sounds nice but it isn't worth it especially considering he planned on moving to netherlands with his gf and this means he may have to work a job he doesn't like for less money.

 

Lets be real, the dude has 375,000 Subs, he could do youtube and make a full-time IRL salary in his country with 1000 subs. He could do youtube for a full-time wage in the USA with like 20,000.

He isn't lacking anything, he could advertise stake every video and be fine lol.

Let's not act like this is youtube ending for him or that it will effect him much, losing 10k subs when you make that sort of money is irrelevant on his scale.

He actually had like 405k if Im not mistaken a few months ago but his lack of videos + gambling ads+ scamming controversy cost him like 30k subs.

If he can get away with all that shit and only lose 30,000 subs he's fine lol, his videos still average 100,000-200,000 views.

Here's a youtube calculator(estimate);

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Off youtube CPM alone the dudes raking like $50,000, that's not TOUCHING a single ad he does for anyone, his ironside refs, etc etc.

He's raking over 6 figures, he doesn't need to give a shit what anyone thinks lol, people act like this is a disaster oh no! I made $30,000 off stake but lost 10,000 subs, that's like 1/40th my income!!! $125,000 x 1/40 is $3200. $125k is on the LOW END I bet aswell.

I'm sure he gives a shit about the $3200 a year when he made 10x that in a few days.

Controversy! Caring! Much wow! YouTube career over!

This dude could shit a brick of gold and toss it out his window and not care lol. He's been doing this shit for a decade, even if you figure his average views and shit have been like this for say, the past 3-5 years, dude has to have over $500,000 in the bank with the cost of living in his country so cheap.

He made that apology video to minimize the damage of that $3200, he's laughing all the way to the fucking bank about the losers that watch him and acts like he gives a shit if they stop watching lol, honestly. Unless he fucked up big time or had insane spending he's rich.

Not to mention he could sell a ad spot to a gold site tomorrow for $10,000+ easy.

Boohoo.

 

End of the day he advertised. Highly Illegal on Runescape. He was cool though

 

You sound really stupid

 

Now he's banned though on what made him his fortune. What do you think he'll do now? Switch over to a new game?

 

He cant. He'll pretty much lose his entire viewerbase in youtube and twitch. Which makes things worse because his steady income stream has more or less dried up. Once the money he got from the gambling company has dried up, he's screwed, which is a point he made very clear in his last video("I'm moving to the Netherlands, where things there are gonna be much more expensive"). It's the only reason why he's grovelling so much on youtube right now. Its his JOB. He's currently jobless, so to speak. Anyone who's seen his apology vids can tell right away he's not even in it for 'passion' for Runescape anymore.

 

The reason I agree with this ban is due to A Friend's sell-out, stupid action that he makes. It is very clear that he is not doing any of these videos for anybody other than himself, because he needs the in-come. What also is clearly shown, is that he's ONLY doing it for the income, due to these sell out actions that he decides to repeat, time after another.

If he would apologize and say his love for the game and actually be genuine I may have a different opinion. In his latest video, summary is basically "I need this for income, if I stay banned forever my life is ruined I won't be able to move to the netherlands and my GF will break up with me".

Even on here Twitter she said how "Crushing" and "Depressing" it was, and it was "tearing her apart". It's all about money.

 

I mean if my youtube career was spiraling downward and someone offered me 100k$ id jump for it with no hesitation. But then there becomes greed and is it genuinely going to be the best thing for your potential life long career? Ehh probably not. But honestly look @ how much people are talking about him. This whole situation just made him that much more relevant. Doesn't matter what its for people are talking about him which is a power move. <- just my thoughts

 

He’s made enough money to live comfortably in Lithuania or wherever he’s from. Think he said they paid him 100k or something, which was enough to buy another house. 2
Properties rented out is enough passive income where he probably doesn’t care about loosing some of his viewership and starting over on a game