The Existence of God

The Bible is not evidence, it's a book. The rest is the argument ad ignoratum, or the argument from ignorance.

Done. What's your point?

 

If there's plenty of evidence, why don't you show us some of it? The Bible isn't evidence.

 

of course. there has to be god. or else how would anything at all exist?

 

That implies that minus a God, nothing can exist at all. Please, demonstrate how this is so.

 

"The absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence" - Gin Rummy (The Boondocks)

The fact is, there is just as little, if not less, proof that there isn't a god. The inability to prove god exists does not indicate that god is fictitious. If anything, it's possible that we, humans, are unable to understand the complexity that is god, and therefore, are unable to see/sense that he/she is all around us.

"Human life is beyond comprehension." - Friedrich Durrenmatt

As a result, ideas of nirvana, or enlightenment, emerge. Those who have been "enlightened" supposedly have the ability to comprehend that which others cannot. Whether this is being able to communicate with god and then pass the message onto others so that it will one day be written in a book, or simply achieving a higher understanding of human life, it is something beyond the limits of common human logic. Throughout history, prophetic entities (such as Abraham, Jesus, Mohammad, Sadartha[Buddha] etc.) have been reported to pass the word of god because they achieved this "enlightenment."

"To each its own." - (Don't know, sorry)!

Whether one chooses to believe in god is entirely one's own choice. However, just because one is unable to comprehend, or find logic behind the idea of god, doesn't mean that this logic is inexistent.

 

You should try reading, it's not as bad as the secret evil government atheist dictators makes it out to be.

 

whats with you people and thinking that athiests are evil?

 

I was being sarcastic, because I've been told numerous times that atheists are evil Satan-worshipers with no sanctity of life, morality or feelings.

A humorous, satirical comment meant to display the utter incompetency of bigoted Theists.

 

The absence of evidence is a pretty good reason to doubt the existence of God.

The Celestial Teapot cannot have its existence proved or disproved.. Therefore, by your logic, it must exist, but it is too complex for us to understand.

 

Firstly one can't say there is an "absence of evidence" in this case. As the bible, Dead-Sea scrolls, relics in Jerusalem and etc, point to some sort of evidence. Furthermore, just because there is no evidence of something does not mean one could assert it's false. Stating that god is "false" because he/she hasn't proven to be true is called argument ad ignorantiam, it is a logical fallacy. And therefore, it should not be used a as a valid argument in one's claim that god doesn't exist.

Russell's Teapot (The Celestial Teapot), like the IPU and the Flying Sphagetti Monster are great subjects to bring up. Although they are obviously fictitious, one could not actually, undoubtedly, disprove their existence. However, in Russell's Teapot, he asserts

"[he] should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time."

The thing is they were not taught in school, they were not instilled into the minds of children, and thus, people are "should rightly ... hesitate to believe in its existence." Different religions came to be accepted for different reasons. The fact is, these religions must have held some sort of validity or quality that appealed to the public to make it believable.

Lastly, I never said god exists. I simply said because there is not enough proof to disprove his/her existence, one cannot dismiss God's existence. At the same time however, one cannot fully prove God's existence as well (otherwise we wouldn't be having this debate in the first place)! Therefore at this point in time, whether one believes in god is his/her own choice. And as I stated earlier.

"To each its own."

 

First, texts written by humans are not evidence towards either side. They do not present direct evidence either for or against the divnie.

Second, yes, it is a fallacy to say "the lack of proof PROVES that God does not exist", but it is not a fallacy to reject the notion of God until further evidence comes along. Most people do this to some extent, regarding Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, or thought-experiments such as the Celestial Teapot.

It's something to bear in mind, but we must be careful not to fall into the Appeal to Popularity fallacy.

Well, we must sort out the definition of God that we are using. If we mean the all-powerful, benevolent deity of the Bible, then such a being is logically impossible (can God create a rock so heavy that he cannot lift it?). If something else is meant, then we must ascertain what it is, and look for inconsistencies in the concept.

 

Yesterday, I had a Fight with my gramma about this.
She said that God left alot of proves of his existence such as his son etc.
I don't believe in God so I asked if she believes in Ghosts. Surprise, Surprise, She said that she can not believe in ghosts because there is no evidence that they existed, and also because she never saw one. So I said that God= Ghosts. I never saw God, He never talked with me and when I was a little kid I used to pray every single day and sometimes I asked for God help and guess what? I never helped.

For The Record: I don't believe in God.

 

Exorcisms? You mean being deranged?

 

"The absence of evidence of absence is not evidence" - Me

Why should we need to disprove something that hasn't been proved?

 

There may or may not be a god out there. I'm not saying that there isn't or that there is, for anyone to say indefinitely that there is or isn't is imposable.

Your only lying to yourself if you don't open your mind to different idea's, not everything is "black and white", "right or wrong".

God may exist, he just might not take the form you imagine him to take.
God may not exist, his image could be just the answer for something you don't understand.

Thats how I feel about god, in short
I don't believe in his existence, but I also don't disprove his existence.

 

Do you feel the same way about Santa Claus?

 

Allah is the only god. I am a fellow Muslim who thinks Allah is the only existing god.

 

Let me guess, you were indoctrinated from birth, never questioned it, and now you're living inside an isolated bubble of logical dyslexia?

Seen it a thousand times before.

*yawn*

 

No


God got killed in a fight woth Chuck Norris, everybody knows that.

 

our god is an awesome god!