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[DENIED] 1 Year sythe member / 50$ donator to acces to [Official Donor Lounge Dice Thread]
  1. Unread #1 - Jul 21, 2018 at 6:58 AM
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    [DENIED] 1 Year sythe member / 50$ donator to acces to [Official Donor Lounge Dice Thread]

    I think there shoud be an requipment to acces [[​IMG] Official Donor Lounge Dice Thread]


    We can see every week new ppls with 5$ donor accs joining Official Donor Lounge Dice Thread and dicing $|07gp|Miniranks for $ and sooner or later scamming out. And when mods finaly check on this users they find out they were vaders before.

    Thats why i think there shoud be requipmet to have acces to that thread so either:

    -50$ DONOR ( donated trough bond holders and not directly via paypal [so they cannot chargeback after scam])
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    -5$ donor + atleast 1 year sythe user

    I belive we woud drasticaly reduce scams in Official dicing thread.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Jul 21, 2018 at 7:38 AM
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    support, although I think dicing is dumb anyways. More protection I suppose
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Jul 21, 2018 at 8:42 AM
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    agree heavily, but I don’t think 5$ donors should be allowed to dice. 99% of them end up going ghost once they lose. I think 25$+ is reasonable although free market blah blah blah
     
  7. Unread #4 - Jul 21, 2018 at 8:44 AM
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    No support.

    The benefits of a $5 donor is minimal as it is. If somebody chooses to dice with them, then that's solely their decision. Personally, unless I've known a $5 donor for a while and deemed them trusted then I wouldn't choose to dice with them anyway.

    Not only that - If you reduce the benefits of a $5 donor then many people would see no point of making that donation which would decrease the amount of cash-flow going straight towards Sythe as $5 donors amount to nearly 50% of the sites members.

    Unless you replace the benefits for something else then I see no reason to.

    My 2 cents, anyway.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Jul 21, 2018 at 8:45 AM
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    Thats why i said 5$ donor woud need to be atleast 1 year sythe members. But ye thanks for your opinion.
     
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  11. Unread #6 - Jul 21, 2018 at 8:49 AM
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    Which also plays back to the decrease in the amount of cash-flow that goes towards Sythe comment I also made.
    It wouldn't be beneficial on their behalf - nor - would any $5 donor (unless already registered a year) be happy to agree with either.

    If you didn't want to dice against $5 donors then surely you just wouldn't dice with them?
     
  13. Unread #7 - Jul 21, 2018 at 8:51 AM
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    [DENIED] 1 Year sythe member / 50$ donator to acces to [Official Donor Lounge Dice Thread]

    You have a point but , if your only reason to join sythe is to donate 5$ and instantly go to official dicing thread then theres somthing fishy i belive u can agree with me.
    And new 5$ donors ( who woudnt be atleast 1 year members of sythe) woudnt have acces just to this specific thread [ https://www.sythe.org/threads/2997904/official-donor-lounge-dice-thread/page-872#post-31724132] so i dont think so that woud reduce 5$ donors benefits much or so =?
     
  15. Unread #8 - Jul 21, 2018 at 9:01 AM
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    [DENIED] 1 Year sythe member / 50$ donator to acces to [Official Donor Lounge Dice Thread]

    I totally understand your point.

    However, not many people have the funds like you or me to donate more than $5. They give what they can. So, why should we punish them for being a new member and donating?

    The only way that would make sense is if we had a "guilty before proved innocent" policy. Which we don't.

    I understand why that would be fishy, though. A new $5 donor member joins up just for dicing. However, nobody is putting a gun to anybody else's head to make them dice with you.

    Personally, I just don't think judging before crime is something that this website is about. No matter where you look or what you do, scammers are going to come and go.

    It's up to whoever set up the dice threads discretion on whom they want to dice with.


    EDIT:

    Maybe though, we could set sub-threads up, categorising low-high stakes dicing?

    For example;

    $5-$25 donors can only dice 'x' amount.

    $50-$100 donors can dice 'x' amount more.

    and so on and so on.

    Theoretically minimising the loss taken from scams in this area. Just a "meet in the middle" thought. Without having to take away the benefit completely.
     
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  17. Unread #9 - Jul 21, 2018 at 9:09 AM
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    If they dont have funds to donate then they also dont have funds to dice ;).

    And if ur new user and join new forum which is most popular for gold sales and not dicing and you join 1h back donate 30 min back and now alredy dicing in official donor lougne i mean either that user was alredy using sythe official dicing lougne(and he got banned and made new acc) or he was lucky that he found that thread while there is 100000 other threads on sythe.


    And when u said that woud reduce sythe income well i kinda dissagree with that because theres like few 5$ donors who gamble in dicing thread so i dont think so few bucks compared to few hours of work every month mods spend on solving problems like this. Banning 5$ donor vaders who scam in dicing thread.
     
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  19. Unread #10 - Jul 21, 2018 at 9:17 AM
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    [DENIED] 1 Year sythe member / 50$ donator to acces to [Official Donor Lounge Dice Thread]

    With all due respect though - this doesn't make much sense.

    I meant funds for donating to a website that may 'in their eyes' not offer them adequate enough benefits for their money. Not everyone has to agree that the benefits they receive from donating, for example, $500 is worth their money whilst others may.

    If they want to donate $5 just so they can gamble more money, then who are we to say no? When the benefit is literally implemented for this.

    Also, when dicing - payments such as OSRS GP & MiniRanks are very common. So, a lot of people don't even gamble with IRL cash.

    You are right though, Sythe is more known for it's Gold Selling/Account Selling aspect, However, referrals. If somebody has a friend on Sythe and they say "this site has a pretty good dicing forum" then they might come here for that, right?


    I still believe what I said earlier though, IF, we was to come to some sort of conclusion.

     
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  21. Unread #11 - Jul 21, 2018 at 9:48 AM
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    Would support a change of the requirements or limits for newcomers of some sort.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Jul 21, 2018 at 12:41 PM
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    Cant punish people just because they donate. Most $5 donors we see do scam but that doesnt mean they all will. No support.

    if there are people like @Bogdan who want to trust and dice new $5 donor members without holding the money first, thats on them if they get scammed.
     
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  25. Unread #13 - Jul 21, 2018 at 12:58 PM
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    rip @Russiansavage and i think it should be something easier, like $5+2Months+No Twc from no home ip
     
  27. Unread #14 - Jul 21, 2018 at 9:00 PM
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    No support, what are we going to do, put limitations on service offerings too?
     
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  29. Unread #15 - Jul 21, 2018 at 10:24 PM
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    Support, it'd stop the issue and I doubt the revenue from people donating $5 purely to dice there instead of the sandbox is that big.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Jul 21, 2018 at 11:27 PM
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    I like the idea but here is my suggestion:

    -I don't think there should be a requirement to access the donor lounge, some people just go on there to type/spam
    -instead make a requirement specifically for dicing, since that's where you are seeing the issue.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Jul 22, 2018 at 12:00 AM
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    No support.

    Simple and short answer is - no one is forcing anyone to dice with others. Similarly, no one forces you to trade with others. Use your own common sense, and be vigilant. Ultimately, scammers are going to scam. We can't prevent them all from doing so.

    I've said this multiple times, and I'll keep saying it - having increased barriers to entry on a platform that isn't growing as it once was is not a idea.
     
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    As much as I wish there would be a requipment for the dicing lounge, I am going to have to vote no support

    Personally, I do think there should be a requirement to
    • Sell accounts
    • Sell gold
    • Do general commerce on this site
    However the admins have agreed this should not be the case for Sythe, and therefore I think it would be rather weird to add a requirement to a specific aspect of the site that is more than the others. Dicing with a $5 is trusting them not to scam you, so is getting your account leveled by a person who joined 3 days ago.
     
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  37. Unread #19 - Jul 22, 2018 at 12:43 AM
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    No support from me.

    If you are trading or gambling or whatever the case you should realize that regardless of the donor amount or amount of time a user has been on Sythe it doesn't make someone "trusted".

    If you are going to dice you should either use a middleman to hold funds or ask to hold the funds yourself if you don't trust the person.

    Nobody is forcing you to dice against these people either it's all your personal choice. Taking away the perk granted to $5 donors is not cool at all because some could be legitimate users.
     
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    You're the exact problem on this forum of people valuing donor status as trust. No support.
     
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