Cloning; Destructive or Helpful?

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do you think cloning is right?

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Cloning; Destructive or Helpful?
  1. Unread #21 - May 13, 2008 at 5:42 PM
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    Cfrey, they don't need to recreate people to get hearts and such o_O. They can genetically alter the code of a living person to fix their heart and everything. They can also change the code to regrow an arm after it is lost, etc.
     
  3. Unread #22 - May 13, 2008 at 5:52 PM
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    I was talking about cloning cells. They could do the same for people to. For example, A husband and wife have the sick child that needs a bone marrow transplant. They were considering of having a child anyways, they could clone the original child with healthy cells. When the child is old enough he could give some of his bone marrow to his brother who needs the transplant. In the end they are a happy family. Husband and wife have two healthy kids. The younger brother has his own personality he has the same gene structure but is his own person, and the older brother is no longer sick.
     
  5. Unread #23 - May 13, 2008 at 6:10 PM
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    But like I said, that's not a neccessity. The beauty of stem cells is they can alter the code to not ever develop, or to fix whatever genetic dysfunction the subject has.
     
  7. Unread #24 - May 13, 2008 at 8:13 PM
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    Ugh to the guy who says they have not cloned a human.

    Google it man. They have it on one of the top news sites cnn or w/e. And no Im pretty sure it wasn't in any huge country.
     
  9. Unread #25 - May 13, 2008 at 8:27 PM
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    I googled it, as far as they have gotten was cloning a human embryo, that is not a human, atleast not yet. So in a way you were correct and so was I. It just depends on how you look at it I guess.
     
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    They didn't clone a human.

    Cite your sources. Google is not a source. If you want to prove something to us, prove it.

    If they had cloned a human, religious zealots would have them shut down.

    Plus it'd be acknowledged on ted...

    http://www.ted.com

    Since they never mention cloning a human, and these are the top genomics researchers in the world, then it didn't happen.
     
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    That's what I said. It's called stem cells.... They duplicate themselves over and over and, in the right conditions, become a specific organ....

    A particular cult CLAIMS to have cloned a human.
     
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    Its not possible to clone humans. only God can create life.
     
  17. Unread #29 - May 13, 2008 at 11:27 PM
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    Both, They could have some helpful benefits such as learning more about diseases, but it could be harmful by it becoming a slave and population problem.
     
  19. Unread #30 - May 13, 2008 at 11:38 PM
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    Of course it's possible to clone humans, we've done it with other complex mammals such as sheep before.
     
  21. Unread #31 - May 14, 2008 at 1:49 AM
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    That's a sheep, are we sheep? no.
     
  23. Unread #32 - May 14, 2008 at 2:39 AM
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    you obviously know nothing about genetic profiles etc. we arn't the most suffisticated (sp?) organism's on the planet you know. There are other animals with just as much organs etc. as us. the only reason why we know more about them is because humanity deems it ok to experiment with animals (although some do not) you better believe if the country ever gave the ok on human cloning scientists would do it just to know they could.
     
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    lol. Human cloning wont happen.
     
  27. Unread #34 - May 14, 2008 at 3:43 AM
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    Genetically we're extremely similar to other complex mammals.

    It will probably never be legal to fully clone a human being, but we can certainly expect to see organ cloning in the somewhat near future.
     
  29. Unread #35 - May 14, 2008 at 6:16 AM
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    whatever you say chief..
     
  31. Unread #36 - May 14, 2008 at 7:28 AM
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    i bet you did not know something :

    we are about 98-99% the same DNA structure as an ear of corn.

    If we can clone one animal, whats to thinking we cant clone ourselves?
     
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    Think about it. What logical/scientific reasoning do you have for your belief?
     
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    Sorry to go a little off argument with kid here. But Shredder is right about one thing, we will never FULLY clone a human. Fully cloning a human is not only nearly impossible, but a dangerous thing to do. When we say cloning, we mean the GENERAL COMPATIBILITY ARTIFICALLY CREATED between two beings. Full cloning a human would be taking every cell, every carbon fiber and make them the same. Impossible? Maybe not in the future. But cloning humans is safe, but has some consequences.

    These consequences are social disorder. Many people are against cloning, and would not react well to clones as such. So these clones might get murdered if they were in the real world. Also, another issue is, as i like to call it, the "Imposter Effect." One man could have a clone (lets say the president) and his clone could go around for him. But this would confuse, disturb and could ultimately be bad. What if his clone got captured? It would have the same knowledge and power. If terrorists or another enemy party made a copy of an opposing faction, this could be used against them.

    On the bright side, we could make clones of leaders who were/are great and could rebuild. We could also maybe expand our life-time by cloning our organs so that we can replace them. Cloning organs would enable us to have a heart, stomach, kidney, liver, or lung donor anytime we needed one.

    So, overall, cloning can be bother bad and good.
     
  37. Unread #39 - May 14, 2008 at 3:05 PM
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    You guys are being idiots and repeating the same fucking thing I've touched on multiple times.

    SCIENTISTS WILL NOT CREATE another human being for organ donating. They simply change the genetic code of the living human being to fix the current organ.

    The creation of a human clone would not be one who is exactly the same at the time of creation, but WILL be exactly the same at the age of which it was cloned from.

    Environment, surroundings, and upbringing, make it nearly impossible to actually fully clone someone. Your behavioral pattern changes so frequently, that a clone would not adapt the same methods for doing things (unless you super imposed your memory) and therefore would not the same as you, just look exactly like you down to every freckle.

    The reason we have such a close DNA to other things in the world, is because the same bacteria that is in them, is in us. However, Corn is not as complex as a human being. Since corn only has like a couple hundred million, humans have upwards of billions of strands of dna.
     
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    You know how terrible it would be if no one died in the world?
     
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