Death of Criminals-Righteous?

For those of you who watch DeathNotw you should be familiar with the topic. For those who don't, do you believe that a criminal who cmmitted something horrible like murder or rape deserves to die? Even though they are also humans, and have rights, would you prefer that people who committed a crime be sent of to prison for some years and then released or just killed on the spot?

My opinion is if someone commits a crime such as murder that actually ends or ruins somebody else's life should die. I know if someone killed my friend I would want them to die. THink of how the victims feel.

Now other crimes that actually don't harm anyone should put people in prison or charge them large amounts of money.

 

Executing a criminal is completely idiotic. It serves no material gain whatsoever. Here are the four aims of punishment by society: 1). Retribution The "revenge" factor. Completely idiotic, and based upon the human impulse to strike back at those who strike at you. 2). Reformation Can the death penalty reform criminals? 3). Deterrence The death penalty is a demonstrable failure at deterring people from committing murder, or any crimes, for that matter. 4). Prevention What right do you have to interfere in the affairs of others, unless invited to? If a person kills another, that is none of your business. Let each person be responsible for themselves. "Think of how the victims feel"? Their brains are flooded with chemical emotions, rendering them very probably incapable of making a rational decision.

 

I completely agree my debate beam.

It basically comes down to the old saying: "Do two wrongs make a right?". The answer is no. You tell the murderer that what he did was wrong, and then you go and do the exact same thing to him? I laugh at that.

 

Well, the question is what would make us any different. If the government kills that criminal, then they committed murder and then would the government get killed? Is killing for the "Betterment of Others" justified. If every "murderer" was killed on the spot, there would be millions of dead people in America and more depression than ever before.

 

Id rather have them rot in a 6 by 6 room for 75 years

 

Shredder, you've killed this thread by making such a good point. There's no arguing againts what you've said and I completely agree.

Let the affairs that do not affect us as an individual stay that way.

 

You are just saying this because you never have seen someone close be killed in a murder. So what if you did, how would YOU control those irrational chemicals in your head?

What the death penalty does is get rid of people who do not belong in this world.

 

It's still a contradiction don't you get that? The death penalty gets rid of people who don't belong in this world? When that person committed murder, isn't that in their opinion, getting rid of someone who doesn't belong in this world?

 

According to your logic, killing somebody should be punished by death. Hence, the assassin of the origional murderer should also be killed? Then who is to kill the assassin of the origional murderer? Surely somebody else will step up until the entire world has gone through this cycle and only one person is left.

Foolproof...

My only issue with keeping somebody in jail for life is the cost of doing so. Imagine the staggering cost to keep all murderers in jail for life while providing all the essential components to life...

 

I see it as this : Eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a leg for a leg, etc.

If you keep the criminals in jail, you pay more for tax's to keep them in there (If you read this shredder, you shall comment on the tax thing, but this thread is not for that >:])

So yeah.

 

Lol, that is not what I said? I said the exact opposite, I said not to kill someone for murdering...

And everyone is entitled to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Therefore it is our honor and duty to serve the prisoners, regardless of what they did to someone else.

 

Like I said why kill them they should rot in hell (prison) for the rest of their lives

 

So you would like to pay way higher taxes?

 

This is hard to decide.. The "eye for an eye" statement is just.. irrational. This just promotes revenge, which is just an endless cycle which is fairly pointless.

They shouldn't die because of rape thats just ridiculous.

They should die of murder. Thats the only thing I can see feasible with the "eye for an eye" statement.

 

Oh, I had forgotten that you have an intimate familiarity with my past. Guess what? I have had people close to me die, by an act of murder.

Simply by knowing that the emotions are chemicals, and that they are irrational.

Why do they not belong in this world? Who are you to make such a pronunciation?

1). It costs more to execute criminals.

2). Cost shall never be a factor in this argument.

 

There are punishments worse than death and probably more effective against criminals too. The death penalty is useless. Most people who do murder aren't afraid to die, in fact, they know what's going to happen to them and are resigned to it.
Letting murderers off without some kind of punishment would suck though, everyone would be dead. But death for them is just too much of an easy way out.

 

No shit?

Never said they should die because of rape, that would be ridiculous

 

I don't think the death penalty is right, as shredder pretty much summed it up... the only other point i can make is the fact that you are killing someone convicted of a crime, but do you really know it was them? I'm pretty sure there were people put to death and years later DNA or something proved that it should not have been them. I don't think that's very fair, dying for no reason.

 

If thats what it takes

 

death note was awesome

i watched it ages ago in japanese.


If that were to happen, it'd be cool, since it was a good show with demons in shit

but in reality, I don't think killing criminals is really a good idea.

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on an unrelated and cliche'd note, I'm a total fag for L.