Abortion

It's funny.

Even if I DID end up being a potential father, I could give two shits if the baby was aborted or not.

 

saddens you? it didnt even sadden the fetus.

 

I do not see why it would sadden the fetus. They are not yet able to speak their mind.

It saddens me, the pain that a woman goes through is very unfortunate, but nothing can be done.

 

You can moan that the child would have led an important life and role in the world, but, for all you know, we could be missing three aborted presidents somewhere along the way.

 

Not all women suffers psychological/emotional trauma after a succeeded abortion.

 

You speak the truth. Not all women will suffer this, but some will. This is what saddens me.

 

its murder tho.. =/
make baby, then adoption..

 

But what can be done?

 

never !!.... it should never be legalized!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Why shouldn't it be legal (it has already been legalized in large portions of the world)?

Remember that here in SFA, we back up our opinions intelligently.

 

I believe it should be legalized to an extent, it should be legal to have a doctor abort the pregnancy until an age where the child could survive on its own outside of the womb, because by that time it should be obvious if the mother wishes to keep the child or not.

As much as it is considered murder, here's something to consider:
A women has sex with ehr boyfriend, she is what you would consider a 'deadbeat', she falls pregnant accidentally but does not want to keep the child, because it is illegal she has to give birth to this child, so it is raised in this deadbeat household neglected by its parents when it does not recieve the love it deserves... in my opinion it was better to abort the baby before it was born.

anywho, it should be ultimately up to the mother to decide if she would keep the baby or not, it is after all, her creation, should she not have the choice to decide its fate?

 

yes, what if a girl gets raped by some guy and doesnt want a baby at age 18? she should have the choice

 

Even if it's capable of surviving on its own, it's still not a seperate life. The woman could still potentially commit suicide, killing the baby.

 

it's legal in most of european countries. In my opinion girls should do only abort if they have get pregnant for accident and tehy can't raise the child or if they have been raped etc.

 

Why shouldn't they be able to get an abortion under other circumstances?

 

Hey, a question to a lot of the people in this thread:

Even if abortion is killing a baby, why is that necessarily a bad thing? You can call it murder or whatever you want, but I'm curious to see how you explain your reasoning.

 

I'm curious on how you justify the killing of a human? Do you not believe in unalienable rights? The rights of every human being to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Upon that premise I would find killing a human a denial of one (the one being life, and subsequently all 3 rights are removed because without life the other two rights aren't possible) of those 3 essential rights.

Now, if you find no value in those rights nor in the value of life, then I've no reason to argue "the point of life" with you as its a redundant and philosophical argument at best. If you don't value life, then that is your own cup of tea, but surely not mine.

Is that satisfactory reasoning for you?

 

I certainly do not believe in unalienable rights, nor in the intrinsic value of life. I have no qualms with killing the baby for the simple reason that it isn't causing any harm (except to the baby, but its dead so it can't care). However, it does have very clear benefits for those around it (who are actually alive and whose opinions matter).

Where do these unalienable rights come from and why should you make it a premise in any rational discussion?

 

I think that abortion is totally up to the person giving birth to the child. I think that it is not actually considered a human until it would be able to live on its own, if you were a fetus then you are a fetus, not a baby, a baby has a rank of a human unlike a fetus which could not be born and survive as it is not fully developed, thus allowing it to be alright to get and give abortions.

 

I agree.

Abortion SHOULD NOT be used just because you were an idiot got pregnant when you didn't want to. There are TOO MANY ways to stop yourself from getting pregnant and when you get pregnant, you want to kill a baby that has a chance at life? Nah.

And to the people who say "what if they can't afford it" etc. You don't have to keep the baby. Theres something called adoption agency's that are more than willing to take the baby in. It's not "full". Watch the news, babys that are found in a dumpster get more than 1000 people wanting to take that baby in their home.