The Existence of God

We are not suffering from overpopulation at all. It is the corrupt governments of this world that are causing the pain and anguish of so many.

 

i do not belive in the physical evidence of god but the mental evidence. i went through sunday school ect and im comfermed but i still dont belive i happened but i belive in the idea.

 

Can you clarify that?

 

Woah, this really skyrocketed, well any ways, i believe God, I was talking to this atheist, and he said scientists said "Heaven is in your mind" but that just can't be true whatsoever since, a 2 day old won't know what Heaven is, and babies die at 2 days old, some die in the womb yet. But, there is a God, its called Faith, no i don't have to prove anything, look around you thats proof enough, if you don't believe God, where did the Earth come from? The planets didn't come from nothing. Something created it, and that something is God.

 

Faith is belief in the arbitrary. It is irrational.

Where did the Earth come from? Ah, the classic "God of the Gaps" argument, or the "Argument from Ignorance".

 

I definitely do not believe in god, which I am presuming to be the god in the Christian religion which I think you should define. The very principles and concepts of Christianity were founded by Humans themselves. How can you say god exists if nobody has ever seen him? Jesus hadn't even laid his eyes on him and he is supposed to be his son! Personally, I believe that after one dies, his body decomposes and what is conceived as being your soul will no longer exist. Heaven is just a portrayal of what man himself wishes to happen when he perishes. What makes the Christian god different than Thor or Zeus?

 

You continue to say that it's an ignorant thought... It's not.

You don't seem to be attempting to disprove the fact that God created every single living and nonliving. Authentic and artificial thing on and off the planet.

You simply just bash it, calling it an ignorant argument. Please. Do your best and try to think up of some how everything came to be.

 

Not realy , but i believe that our life wont stop after die

 

Faith is believing in that which there is no evidence for, or that the evidence goes against. This is not rational behavior.

You also hold the concept of God to be special in that you can have faith in that alone. Why not have faith about 100 other things? Just "have faith" that Santa is real, that there is an invisible fairy flying behind you, and that your parents are really goblins.

Have you ever heard of Russel's Teapot? It's a delightful argument that serves the purpose of showing that the burden of proof lies upon the believer.

Who said it needed to "come to be"? If that happened, that would violate the Law of Conservation of Matter.

 

Tons of people have seen Him. God doesn't have one 'image' of himself, like we do. There have been so many confirmed miracles of God doing things or showing himself to people in many different ways. How do you explain the well (I honestly can't recall the name or where it is...) that people from all around the world go to and the water heals diseases and such... (blindness, etc.)

 

That is complete ignorance-- I am not scared to die and go to hell for eternity. I am one to question, and if question is sinful so be it. I refuse to follow blindlessly without asking questions non-stop along the way. I have found God through my own prodding, and I respect everyone who has done the same. Sometimes the toughest path ends up being the best, fear is no factor in finding the intelligent designer who created this amazing planet.

I will probably be creating a thread to prove God's existence in the near future, seeing as there is no intelligent debate countering God's existence.

And to compare religion to a dictatorship, haha seriously? Go to school.

 

So you are implying that if the majority believes something it must be true?

Show me proof.

Again, show me proof.
Miracles do not exist. They are not possible if they disobey the strongly supported natural laws. People who think god has shown himself to them are delusional.

No blind person was ever healed by water. Stop it with your ignorant claims and make an argument with proof.

 

So you have seen God? if not then you have not found anything. the mind is easily fooled, if you tell yourself enough times that something exists, is under your bed, you will believe it.

And you cannot prove something that is imaginary, so good luck getting any proofs. and if god "has to be hidden" then there will be no prove, and there would be no miracles. and if god has everyones life planed out form them, then if you get sick it would be because it was in gods plan, so why would he heal you if he planed for you to get sick?

just think about jesus's "miracles" turning water into wine, im sure there are thousands of magicians that can trick you like this. If jesus wanted everyone to know he was god why didnt he move a mountain or something? and dont say he didnt want everyone to know because why else would he be doing these "miracles" on every street corner.

I bet when you where a kid you found santa too, the same way as you say you found god.

 

Some people have experienced a pink elephant. Do you stand in awe of their knowledge of the divine? Peter Sutcliffe (also known as the Yorkshire Ripper) heard the voice of Jesus telling him to murder. Are we hailing them as a religious leader yet?

Let me repeat myself - Miracles violate natural laws. The evidence supporting natural laws is absolutely overwhelming. For a miracle to be accepted as true by any rational person, the evidence supporting it must be more than overwhelming - it must amount to a full and direct proof.

However unlikely it may be that everybody is lying about the well, it is even more unlikely that somehow, there was a special something in the water that actively cured disease (selectively too, though, for we must note that such people as amputees are never healed).

Hahahahaha.

 

Can I please have some proof of these confirmed miracles. And a link to this "water that heals". Until then your argument is completely inaffective.

 

Okay, ill give evidence, You guys chat alot but i'm going to give real evidence.
For example, Laminin is a glycoprotein that is a component of connective tissue basement membrane and that promotes cell adhesion
and theres a picture. Heres a picture of a black hole, taken from the Hubble spacecraft

 

Thanks for that. What is this evidence of, again?

 

If you read the text, it will help.... and here some more i got from a book called "90 Minuets in Heaven" a true book about a real guy dying.. Heres the description..A True Story of Death and Life - 90 Minutes In HEAVEN, the title said. Don Piper with Cecil Murphey. A biography/autobiography of a Baptist minister from Texas, who had actually died, was pronounced dead at the scene of a accident, and stayed dead for 90 minutes. A 90 minutes that were, according to Piper's memories, spent in heaven.

 

How is a blackhole evidence that god exists. O I see theres a cross in the
blackhole that must mean that god created it. O and a cross made out of cells you are to good. Hey look I killed 10 babys and aligned their heads in a t formation, I guess god is truly with me.

First of all anyone can say anything they want this firstly makes your point invalid. I can say
hey guys I used to be the king of france until my magic powers were drained from an acient toad who owns neptune, sounds ridiculous doesnt it? Also a Minister died, of course he is going to say he was in heaven what else would someone believeing in god say.

 

When you dream, your brain produces small amounts of DMT. When you die. your brain is flooded with the stuff. I rather think that that's a more likely explanation of his "visions".