Disallow adverting discord ID's on sythe

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Disallow adverting discord ID's on sythe
  1. Unread #1 - Feb 10, 2018 at 10:03 PM
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    Disallow adverting discord ID's on sythe

    Edit: putting this at the top, if you dislike the idea of removing discord as a whole what about a sticky warning people?


    Currently there new system on discord called discord nito,

    Support Discord's development. Get boosted.

    This system is a complete danger to the system,
    Let me explain why?

    • This allows user to have the same ID and same name as user who has a discord account,
    • This is giving people false hope of being safe when trading with another user.
    Examples of reports:
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    And there was another one on mr.king.

    Besides this user's can delete messages and make it appear as if a trade never happened and edit message without trace of anything being done,

    I believe there should be sticky's to enforce safety or total removal of allowing people to trade using discord on the site

    There is one main issue with this tho, discord is fastly becoming the biggest communication plat forum for gaming this could be a big big issue
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Feb 10, 2018 at 10:06 PM
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    Disallow adverting discord ID's on sythe

    Sorry ABM, no support. You can always request a Sythe PM if you are unsure that you're speaking to the real person.
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Feb 10, 2018 at 10:07 PM
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    Disallow adverting discord ID's on sythe

    good point, but if they have 2 accounts they can use double imposter scam two have to account's meaning you sending them the same id in pm meaning they can't tell difference

    and if they're smart they just copy and paste chat logs between people
     
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  7. Unread #4 - Feb 10, 2018 at 10:07 PM
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    Disallow adverting discord ID's on sythe

    It's an interesting problem, the issue is discord is such a big trading platform now that if Sythe does away with it, will that reduce traffic to the site? People might use discord directly or go to other forums.

    The other issue is that we have a sythe discord which would be rather hypocritical to ban discord from the site while having a official server.

    Are the scams happening outweighing the benefit of discord being used as a trading platform? Currently I'd say no because there's only been a few reports.

    It's a tough one, I will remain neutral for now I think.
     
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  9. Unread #5 - Feb 10, 2018 at 10:10 PM
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    Disallow adverting discord ID's on sythe

    Sythe font is different from Discord font. An entire platform shouldn't be blocked because of a few people that are incapable of reading Discord tags.
     
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  11. Unread #6 - Feb 10, 2018 at 10:13 PM
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    Disallow adverting discord ID's on sythe

    Actually its a worse problem than u think - I commented on the report on you and sent a private post directly to staff warning them.

    If my id is topdog77#5853, and my fake impostors ID is Topdog77#5853, naturally in the English language u capitalize the first letter of a name - So I used to always type my discord as Topdog77#5853 in PM's because u are taught from 1st grade in the USA to capitalize the first letter of a name.

    U see though now that's being used against traders, the first letter seems to be the biggest problem for most people sending PM's because we naturally capitalize the first letter of things.

    So if ur discord was milo#5555 and someone requested a PM from u and u naturally typed it as Milo#5555, you've got a problem now.

    Its a nuisance and I'm awaiting sythe staff to see how their going to handle it because it is a problem.
     
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  13. Unread #7 - Feb 10, 2018 at 10:15 PM
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    Disallow adverting discord ID's on sythe

    We cant force people not to trade via certain platforms. We are firm believers in a free market here on Sythe and that would hurt trading and the user base who majorly uses Discord for their trading needs.

    The best we can do is warn them as much as possible about scam methods. We can only hold the community's hand so much!
     
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  15. Unread #8 - Feb 10, 2018 at 10:16 PM
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    I wouldn't make such a stupid mistake as typoing my Discord though, knowing full well imposters exist. I saw your post before you deleted it. If you typo your Skype name, or anything, the responsibility falls on you.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Feb 10, 2018 at 10:20 PM
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    Disallow adverting discord ID's on sythe

    The issue is, and correct me if I’m wrong, but the skype “Sythe” and “sythe” are the same thing. Usually everywhere, once a username is claimed a username with a capitalized version is not available as the username system doesn’t recognize capitals being different, that’s only for passwords. I feel it’s uncommon knowledge that this is a thing for discord IDs until recently
     
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  19. Unread #10 - Feb 10, 2018 at 10:22 PM
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    Yes you can, the only difference would be that one letter is capital the issue is lack of knowledge of this
     
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  21. Unread #11 - Feb 10, 2018 at 10:24 PM
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    Disallow adverting discord ID's on sythe

    This is correct - capitalization in skype names does not matter, if I type my skype as Live:seekmatt52 or live:seekmatt52 - its the same skype.

    If I search dunworrys skype with a capital L or lowercase it makes no difference as capitalization traditionally does not matter.

    That's why u don't see capitalization scams on skype - impostors have to have a different letter/digit then the real one.

    Discord has introduced a new type of online scamming basically.
     
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  23. Unread #12 - Feb 10, 2018 at 10:27 PM
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    Yeah, most places don't let you pick the same username as another person. Discord lets you choose whatever tag you like, and gives you random numbers at the end to differentiate you. You still have to have a different Discord ID, we can't pick the same one. This is just slightly more deceptive because i/l look the same on Discord.

    Just be more careful and request a PM. People should be doing that anyways :S

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  25. Unread #13 - Feb 11, 2018 at 12:10 AM
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    Of course you can never be too careful. Honestly I think it’s kind of a bad thing for discord, but we should have a news post put out on the sythe discord linking to a sticky stating this. Awareness, because to be honest, I could have fallen for this if it was over a week or so ago. Not good
     
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  27. Unread #14 - Feb 11, 2018 at 12:36 AM
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    Disallow adverting discord ID's on sythe

    I see no difference in this suggestion to disallowing any other form of contact. It would be silly to disallow anyone to advertise their Skype ID because an impostor scammed someone... why do it for discord? If needed, create some new (or edit existing) stickies that mention impostors on Discord and to double-check who you're talking to.

    People need to learn safe trading habits and that includes verifying who you are talking to.

    /closed

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  29. Unread #15 - Feb 11, 2018 at 2:05 AM
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    What Mr. Tmoe said. Specifically “People need to learn safe trading habits and that includes verifying who you are talking to.” We can’t hold the hands of every market user as we have quite a lot of stickies highlighting the importance of safe trading habits.

    We’re working on notifying users with regards to recent Discord nitro impostors.
     
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    This update is definitely dogshit and makes life a lot harder for some but this shouldn't mean we are disallowed to use discord. I primarily use discord because I prefer it.

    This just proves how important getting a sythe pm to confirm is.

    There are impostors with Skype too.

    I can't support this as much as I dislike the new nitro changes.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Feb 11, 2018 at 3:03 AM
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    Make a warning that discord ID is case sensitive and its solved
     
  35. Unread #18 - Feb 11, 2018 at 4:20 AM
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    Voted no for the simple reason that this is no different to Skype imposters.
    The market is plastered with "Always request a PM", it's not that difficult.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Feb 11, 2018 at 9:27 AM
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    Disallow adverting discord ID's on sythe

    @Tyler Now you can lock this,
    I'm going to suggest something a little different with similar concept instead once this locked seen as people missed something in there that I said o_O
     
  39. Unread #20 - Feb 11, 2018 at 9:35 AM
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    Requested lock by OP.
     
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