Homosexual rights

Why shouldnt we be able to live ordinary lives just like straight people?

 

They can I have no problem with homosexuals.

 

then why is it unnatural?

 

It was not ment to happen this way.

 

can you prove that it was not "ment" to happen this way?

what do you mean?

give me examples.

 

Omfg im making a fool out of myself.

 

thanks. come back once you are ready to talk again.

 

Ok i will be back

 

Well that little ba and forth there was kinda funny because I thought hypocrite was spelled like that.

But As young geez failed many will becase its not unnatural i mean you dont see heterosexuality as unnatural or immoral because that the way most citizenswere raised to believe which in all honestly makes no sense to me because "Gays" havent harmed me I have friends who are gay my cousin is Bi which she doesnt seem any less human than I do so therefore is blessed with certain unalienble rights that cannot be taken away from said person.
Don't even jump the bible crap because it wont changed my opinion at all.

 

yep, the only way the we are different from heterosexuals is our sexual preference, nothing more, nothing less.

 

These opinions are based upon studies. Have a closer look.

Guess what? It isn't my thesis.

Do you ever read any of their testimonies? These things actually happen, you know. It's not some hypothesis I've come up with. I'll state it again: It actually happens.

Losing an argument? First, I've lost nothing. You're basically saying "Since it cannot be proven either way, I'm entitled to believe this side of it". That's just silly. Usually, if the chances of something are equal, then you could reasonably choose, but in this case, they are clearly not equal.

I mean, I cannot choose my sexuality! I'm straight, and cannot become homosexual through willpower. Why can they, through willpower, make a conscious decision to become homosexual? Why would they do that?

Second, I infracted you for your obvious flaming.

 

Good luck trying to teach the young ones that being doesnt make you any different than me honestly *sigh*

 

yeah, thats the problem with the world today. We are so tied up on our looks, appearance and everyone elses thought on us that we will do anything to get to our "pure" look.

 

Well we cant change the world because the world is too damn ignorant to listen. For example the president of U.S. a braindead moron who is probably just being used as a puppet.
I mean the world is full of hypocritical people who say one thing and then change their minds at the last second to make themselves look better so It will never change no matter what is tried, its sad though.

 

I have an aunt and uncle that both turned gay... in their mid-30's I believe. I believe my Aunt did because she had bad experiences with men (although I doubt she'd admit to it)... and I don't know about my uncle, but he did lots of drugs...
they haven't really said they were gay (but they're both in partnerships... one of them ending now badly, actually), but they have said they were heterosexual. Although I'm sure the world and gay community is altering their train of thought to question whether they really were ever heterosexual or if they were just trying to convince themselves they were. That would have some parallels to the "conspiracy" of the gays, although I'm sure it's not such.

If you want to change your preferences, you first have to open your mind, all the way. This includes diluting the brainwashing of society.
For instance Shredder, you believe nothing is inherently wrong and morality essentially does not exist, yes?
But if you were to watch a video of a man having sex with a crying baby or a dead body, you'd be repulsed. There is no reason for that, such actions are no different than any others, nothing wrong or repulsive about them. You could say it was gross to have sex with a dead body, but if the person had just died there would be no rotting and such, so not gross.
Some people are so brainwashed that they get offended by ppl even talking about raping children to death [and such]. And some even believe morality exists without a God... lmao!
Most of our reactions and emotions are triggered because of social influence. Which is only natural... we learn. You learn that certain things are scary, pretty, <insert adjective>, funny, etc... for instance, many people have developed a similar sense of humor to their parents (or whoever was around the child frequently).
What you find to be sexually attractive is really no different, it is developed. Many cultures find (or have found) fat/plump women to be attractive. And even within the past 50 years you can see a change... media has a fairly big influence. Of course, those are only subtle changes, but I guarantee it's possible to mold a perfectly regular child into a homosexual.

Best practice for control is to control your emotions, it goes hand in hand. Be emotionless for extended periods of time... preferably while exposing yourself to very emotional things such as dramatic movies and shock videos (beheadings, scat or other such porn, mutilations, etc). Of course, it's probably not possible to be pure emotionless. Personally, I'd just think about the content's level of interest... interesting things generally being things that are new or provoke thought. So I find that the raping of babies is fairly interesting.

tbh, I've been practicing to convince myself of lies. I need a lie detector to test though
Of course, your first thought is "Hey, you'll just know that you tried to convince yourself and therefore know it's not true"... not necessarily true at all. Even outside of brainwashing, people convince themselves of things all the time (usually not intentionally however)... but these people are generally insane (as defined by the "sane").

Damn it... don't got time to rant any more.
But if you'd like, I got a few short audio clips from a video of a guy having anal sex with a baby (since it is related to the above):

http://cruels.net/downloads/snd1.mp3
http://cruels.net/downloads/snd2.mp3
http://cruels.net/downloads/snd3.mp3
http://cruels.net/downloads/snd4.mp3
http://cruels.net/downloads/snd5.mp3

I could post the whole thing, but it's generally more of the same. And sry, can't give video of course... but you can just imagine, and gauge your response accordingly. As I said, it's fairly interesting, this all is.

 

For some reason I doubt gay people would ever be a disturbance to anyone. Besides MJ and very few others. But I still wouldn't support them, I like to support my family.

 

So, perhaps people can become gay. Is that the case in the majority of cases, though? And, let us grant that sexuality is completely determined by choice. Are they not free to choose as they wish?

Technically, yes.

The odd thing is, I wouldn't really be. I'm not really repulsed by videos of thing. Now, if I saw it in real life, perhaps I would be.

You can have morality without a God. No ultimate morality, perhaps, but still morality.

All of this is true, but if a child is raised a certain way, their mind "sets", so to speak. It's easy enough to make children accept anything, but not so easy when they're grown up.

If a member of one sex is genuinely in love with a member of the same sex, they probably won't try to convert themselves to heterosexuality.

You can also use doublethink.

 

Most likely, most cases of homosexuality are from the social molding, not from choice. And some probably with the aid of certain genes.
They certainly are free to choose their preference, but I don't think the constitution of marriage can accommodate them.
The only solution is to remove the legal ties and make it practically worthless outside of religion. Religious folk would hate this and have to create a different marriage ceremony. But so be it.

I see. So video still holds an unreal element for you. Somewhat the same for me probably.

Hardly. If morality is defined differently by each individual, how can it really be define? It'd be like if a word existed in the English language that held a different meaning to each person. You can't very well call it a defined word, it's definition does not exist.

Definitely true. Much of opening your mind is similar to becoming like a child, more willing to learn... and some would say more naive.

lol, for constructive reasons, I'd rather not find truth in opposing ideas. But it's definitely possible.

 

Christianity states that people can only be with the opposite sex. I believe this.

 

why do you believe this? just because a book says that its how it should be? what if i wrote a book saying that all females were lesbian and shouldnt be allowed to marry ever.

does that mena its correct?