Jagex's Intentions.

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Jagex's Intentions.
  1. Unread #1 - Jan 9, 2008 at 9:15 PM
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    I Dont Exactly have enough to support myself on this,

    but i've got an idea of what jagex's intentions on runescape are.

    They killed RWT, why? because it was an issue.

    Now, with rwt gone, its time for them to kill some of the gold in-game.

    How will they do this?

    Answer: Expect Summoning to cost 500m to get to 99.

    if not summoning, a near future stat.

    Why are they doing this?

    Answer: bot's created so much gold on the game, that jagex have lost count. if they didnt do something about rwt, they would continue losing out.
     
  3. Unread #2 - Jan 9, 2008 at 9:19 PM
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    I honestly don't understand why they even give two shits about this game. They still get their money either way.
     
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    The gold conspiracy sounds kind of dumb and unrealistic, but hey who knows.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Jan 9, 2008 at 9:21 PM
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    Hmm makes sense oddly..but how can they make it pricey now that we control the economy threw g.e? Itll be on demand for the first week it comes out then die like contruction. Just my input =)
     
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    Killing rwt and pking only makes them lose mass amounts of profit..
    I heard that they lost 400,000+ members due to the removal of pking (apparantly what I've heard), that is close to half of all their members.
     
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    stats are about lost there.

    if im right, jagex might pull out a refer a friend to keep numbers up
     
  13. Unread #7 - Jan 10, 2008 at 12:01 AM
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    I'm sorry but you're absolutely wrong. The botting problem was that they brought way too many resources into the game and caused a huge unbalance. Notice how merchanters were selling ridiculous amounts of resources like 500k raw lobsters, 3 million pure essence, 40 million willows, etc.

    There were huge increases in the amounts of resources coming into the game but no huge increases in the actual amount of new money (gold pieces) entering the game (just the usual amounts from alching, monster drops, etc). Such a surplus of items over money caused what is known as deflation as prices continually fell.

    Today the runescape economy is still facing deflation due to two primary factors. The first factor being that there is still the insane amounts of ressources from bots remaining in the game and the amounts of actual money (gold pieces) in the game are still far too little to balance out. The second factor that's causing deflation in the new economy is the lack of financial distribution. Previously, wealth was spread out and redistributed differently daily due to staking/pking/merchanting thus causing there to be rich/medium/poor classes and causing these to move up and down frequently. In the new market with these features virtually non-existent each player's wealth is quite consistent/stable and that's why lots of expensive items (specifically rares) are crashing - because the amount of players than can afford them is virtually the same every day or can only increase much slower from now on.
     
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    wow you wrote that. thumbs up.

    your very right, but it doesnt make me wrong.

    botting has a massive influence on this game, and a new stat to kill gold, is what they need.
     
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    They are getting rid of rares now... look at the prices.
     
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    Prices of rares has gone way down, it's sad. D:<
     
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    what should be the world without money?
     
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    thats good for me ;)

    a good world , mebe? lol
     
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    I remember Jagex saying something about how skills could make you money(but they refered to it as being the best way). Your theory on them trying to take money out of the game might be supported if they are trying to get people to use skills instead of merchanting or rwt. I dont really know if these were done under good intentions or because they want less gold, it certainly wasnt for more profit. Well anyway....
     
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    they want to make the game fair, and by doing that, they have to kill rwt.

    They want people to make money using there own stats > lower prices.

    For example 1 Person Has 20 Sharks.

    They would sell for a nice price each.

    what if, 5000 people have 20 sharks?

    prices will fluctuate.

    am i helping?
     
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    Nullware you are correct, but it doesn't make Raunch wrong.
    You both make good points and i have to agree with both of you, and the main that fact there is to much money and resources in RuneScape.

    The below example is directed at nullware how it shows that botting does increase the amount of money not just resources.
    The following 3 items are up there with the most widely botted goods:
    Pure Essence.
    Yew Logs.
    Flax.

    Since those items where botted thier prices decreased dramatically. Thus making the price of Yew Longs cheaper and more profitable to alch.

    Also there i have to disagree with your Rares argument, phats aren't decreasing it only seems to be masks, santas, easter eggs, pumpkins and discs.
    Rares will always be unstable, but they will always recover as there aren't anymore of these items coming into the game but more of them are being taken out of the game from people alching, dieing and getting banned.

    I myself have rid RuneScape of 39 santas, 3 phats, 1 or 4 masks (can't remember if i had or sold a set) and well over 2 bil in gp (including items but excluding rares) from getting several of my accounts banned.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Jan 10, 2008 at 11:57 AM
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    What they COULD do, is delete all the rares that people put in the exchange. The person who sells them gets the money, and anyone buying doesn't get any rares, it just does what it does when you offer too low a price and no one is selling. That would be just like Jagex.
     
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    I laughed would be kinda funny ( i would like to see the face of the person when he lost most of his money :p)

    O.t I think you are right Raunch, but I think they are trying to reduce the amoun t of supplies in the game (willows,lobs,yew logs etc...)
     
  35. Unread #18 - Jan 10, 2008 at 2:51 PM
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    You are also right in saying that it did bring lots of money into the game as well. I'm just saying that botting caused a huge unbalance because there were so many of them that resources were being gathered much quicker than the resources were being used up and much faster than new money was being brought into the game.

    I have to disagree here, if you take a closer look into the new system and into the economy you will see that phats have dropped a little BUT the ONLY reason they are not dropping as fast/faster than small rares is because highly priced items is where Jagex's system is flawed. The Great Exchange increases/decreases prices based on sales that occur but there are currently next to none phat trades going through because the deflation has made everyone poorer in wealth and also because everyone realizes they should be a cheaper price in comparison to the other new prices but aren't because Jagex's system will not lower them fast enough.

    As an example, look at the Christmask Cracker which is valued by the Great Exchange at over 685 Million but during the last 2 weeks before the unbalanced trade update was being sold between 450-550 million. Now anyone with a Christmas Cracker is stuck with it unless someone wants to pay the new unreasonable price for it which is even more doubtful with most peoples' wealth decreasing daily. This just shows that Jagex failed to research all prices completely and should have done a major price update before ending unbalanced trades. The other major mistake of theirs was in failing to realize how flawed the system would be with high priced items.
     
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    Laws. Taxable income. I doubt any that sells gold pays tax on there earning so Jagex doesnt want sued.
     
  39. Unread #20 - Jan 10, 2008 at 4:03 PM
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    Jagex's Intentions.

    Yeah they killed RWT in the fucking absolute dumbest way possible. The wild didn't need to be kill, they needed to put requirements to pass the ditch.

    Anyway, I do expect summoning to cost 500m, not because Jagex has the IQ to remove gold supply, just because they are idiots and the GE will jack it up with noobs selling high and what not.
     
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