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Why all of you manbabies (WANTrepreneurs) never make any money
  1. Unread #1 - Sep 20, 2017 at 4:26 PM
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    Why all of you manbabies (WANTrepreneurs) never make any money

    This topic is to outline why most of you never make any substantial amount of money. It is likely why many of the scammers and ban evaders do what they do (as they are weak). And it is why some of you have been on here for years and have less than min-wage to show for it.

    This is more so targeted at those of you who are in cloud cuckoo land about being Mr bossman of a multi-million dollar business, retiring before 30, and sunbathing on a tropical island sipping champagne while you passively make money. I am going to explain why you have been brainwashed and have leapt on the bandwagon of idiots as you're all insecure and lazy manbabies who cannot step outside of your comfort zone.

    1) Underlying superstition that one day you will "make it"


    While this is wonderful and all, most of you who believe that one day you're going to breakthrough to "success" is simply underlying superstition that if you put in some effort and be a respectable person then one day karma will reward you with passive income. This is delusional and you need to understand business isn't a wonderful place with rainbows on the horizon, and unicorns grazing in the fields. Business is results, its about numbers, and making more money than you put in. Ultimately it's about getting the highest ROI possible.

    If you swallow any pride and take down any immediate defense and the above applies to you, it's time to log off, get a pen and paper and evaluate your lifestyle and change the way you think.

    2) If you're aiming for mediocre results, you will never be successful

    A lot of people go into this in a cowedly fashion. They want to be a shadow in the darkness who has a relaxed lifestyle of making X amount per day. For example "I will be happy once I reach $50 per day" blah blah blah.

    Well let me crush your hopes and spirits. If this is your attitude, firstly you will never make $50 per day for the long term (as new obstacles and changes occur all the time), and you will never be successful. Why? Because if temporarily you reach this goal, you will then relax and continue to be lazy. You do not see the true value in money and work ethic if this is what you hope to do. You will temporarily make $50/day then something will change and you won't be able to cope and take action. You will point the finger to blame anyone or anything around you that has changed the market and why it's not "like the good old days".


    3) Stop playing it safe and asking questions.

    Asking questions is something we're all told to do. But its very bad advice in most cases. Sure its great to ask some questions to learn the ropes. But asking questions is what average people in the average working environment do. A job is something that doesn't change much. Your responsibilities are pretty much the same unless the company you work for implements some minor changes. If you are asking a billion questions to "play it safe" before taking action, I'm sorry but you should just go and work at mcdonalds and learn how to use the deep fat fryer safely.

    If you're asking questions to build the perfect plan before taking action, then you have failed before you've even started. If you have the audacity to want to be an entrepreneur without any risk whatsoever, then you're not going to succeed. I'm not saying go and throw your life savings at something you do not understand, but you need to be willing to be patient and embrace trial and error with open arms. Document the results from trial and error and then move forward.


    4) "I'm going to do this, and I'm going to do that."

    Oh shut up. Get off your lazy fat behind, and start taking action. This is no different from when average people say they are going to start their school work earlier next year, then never do. You are the result of your toxic habits, low work ethic, and insecurities of change. Stop procrastinating.


    5) Ego-driven narrow minded people

    There is a lot of people here who for some reason try to act like they're someone they are not. They add 0's to the end of what they actually make to try and impress people. They are again in cloud cuckoo land which I actually find quite sad as one day reality is going to hit hard on these said people, or reality will never hit and they will spend the rest of their lives trying to be somebody they never will be.

    These people misinterpret business as something only the alpha-intelligent do. They think they are better than everybody else because they are making some money online instead of having to work for min-wage. Although this is credible to some degree, in most cases this is short-term game mentality and in 5-10 years time or even sooner, will not be the case.

    I could write 10,000 words on whats toxic about these people but lets simplify it. If you've not made any changes in the past 6 months to expand your income, what makes you think you will in the next 6 years? Be real, if you're 20 years old, do you really want to be doing what you're doing when you're 30 when the income is going to be much smaller? No of course not, so as I mentioned in the previous section, stop trying to make a perfect plan, just take action and embrace change.

    A finishing remark for these people. Do you really think people respect you, or do you think they're mocking you?

    You will have some pathetic naive fanboys who believe whatever you tell them, but while you're putting on an act, your competitors (including ones you don't even know about) are working hard, grinding to thrive, and you'll be shocked and disappointed when you hear about them being super successful in the future, while you're still in the same place, putting on an act to fulfill your insecure ego.


    6) Who am I to preach all this?

    I understand this comes across as exactly the toxic kind of person mentioned above. However I will explain why I am not.

    I never claim to make more money than I do online. I can always prove my numbers when questioned.

    In the past I actually had some of the above personality traits, and lack of work ethic. Then one day I woke up to being extremely broke, not knowing how I got there. Although this was one of the most emotionally crushing periods in my life, I am glad it happened as it was a curb stomp to the teeth and a baseball bat to the face to what the real world is like. I swallowed all my pride built up by my insecurities and I assessed them one by one. I questioned what I really wanted, and what I was telling myself I wanted, and I started to grind and move forward. Now I am still grinding each day, regardless of whether I make a lot of money from a lucky surge in sales. I keep on going, I do not reward myself too frequently for minimal effort as that's what the work life balance ideology in modern western society brainwashes us to do.

    I embrace the fact I do not know shit compared to some people out there, so I continue to learn more, through trial and error, not by asking questions as no one size fits all. What works for some person may not work for me.

    What you all need to understand is that if you're serious about this lifestyle, its not an easy path. It's not a laid back approach to building a career, it's not an easy option. If anything its much harder than going to get a job. In a job you are paid per hour for your time, in business you are responsible for everything and there's nobody out there who will offer their hand out to do this for you.

    I have handled over 1.2 million US dollars in total, but that does not make me a millionaire. That is one of the huge misconceptions people have in this community. Like I mentioned earlier business is only about the numbers. I could have handled $1.2M and only netted $10k in which case would be a terrible accomplishment and I'd be better off getting a job with a secure wage.

    To be totally transparent with you guys to hopefully stop some of you being in dreamland. I will give you a real insight.

    I have handled $1.2m since 2015, I have not counted the amount before that as it would be a waste of time when I could be doing something much more productive.

    That means if we hypothetically speak and disregard growth of sales, that's 1.2m divided by 24 months (if we round to 2 years). That means $50,000 handled per month. I can tell you right now that a lot of the big traders handle over 4 times that per month but lets keep this on my numbers.

    That does not consider any losses and expenses. Again lets keep it simple and disregard all factors such as sales growth and an increase in customer conversion.

    If we assume the money was all for gold, then after fees and expenses we're looking at mid 4 figures on average, and low 5 figures at best.

    So to all of those out there that think gold sellers are sat in a villa being fed grapes by two hot babes, passively making money while they pay live chat workers to do everything for them, you are wrong and clearly haven't bothered to even open an onscreen calculator, never mind a physical one. It actually amazes me by how many people want to outsource 24/7 live chat so they can sit back and play the role as boss man and not do any work.

    Being a true entrepreneur is like having the 9 while 5 job, except you do not have a fixed rate for your time, and if anything goes wrong YOU are the one responsible, and YOU are the one to blame.

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    I have written this to hopefully help some of you. Some of the people I talk to here are great people, but they are on the wrong path. You don't want to waste years of your time so at least consider some of what I have said as an insight from somebody who HAS been in your position, and has failed more times than you may want to believe.

    It has been everything but easy to get things going properly. It was only when I stopped trying to find magical shortcuts, and actually started working harder than ever before, that I reached any level of success. So again if you truly want to thrive, now is harder than ever, and you will have to work hard.

    I apologize if this comes across as a rant and I know I've not really written this in a clear concise order, but I am really busy and just wanted to get this off my chest. I have a lot of people ask me questions and I can read them like a book. They want to come up with some master plan, they want to be "smarter than everyone else", BUT... and here it is yet again... they do not want to take any action.
     
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    Why all of you manbabies (WANTrepreneurs) never make any money

    Vouch, perfectly describes me. I can confirm I make less than minimum wage but do not want to take action to change it.
     
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    Why all of you manbabies (WANTrepreneurs) never make any money

    Thanks for the read man.... gave me some motivation for sure!
     
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    You could always go catchall the dank pokemans
     
  9. Unread #5 - Sep 21, 2017 at 6:11 AM
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    Why all of you manbabies (WANTrepreneurs) never make any money

    This legit describes most of these gold website/rs service owners who pretend to be rolling in money, while everyone that actually been in this business knows they usually don't make jack shit and only several big players that do never brag about it. These wannabes usually find 1 average or good source of income and think it will last forever not bothering to put time into researching new fields when 99% of the time it eventually fails and they go back to 0 with no experience in anything else. I also once was like these wannabes by looking down on everyone who made less money than me, but seeing some of them make it has really opened my eyes. I couldn't really give a shit about expanding back then i was 15 and was already making more money than my school teachers i was thinking i will be rich forever, and eventually i had to face some shit which made me barely break even at some points. Looking at it back now if i did proper research and tried to expand and go big rather than settle at a comfortable spot that i was in, i could be making 10 times more than i am now
     
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  11. Unread #6 - Sep 23, 2017 at 6:18 AM
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    Why all of you manbabies (WANTrepreneurs) never make any money

    An interesting read.

    In my opinion if you want to risk it all to be the boss man, do it early in life before you have too much to lose as it becomes much harder to leave your comfort zone.
     
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    Love the "I'm going to do this" part, hear this from so many people but nothing ever comes of it. All talk no action
     
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    I don't really think RS should be anyones main source of income. I mean certain things can net you big money, but one day you will need a real career and for that you need real experience. The money I make from my rs services I put towards things my girlfriend and I don't budget for. It's like having an extra job that is fun to me, and not stressful.
     
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    if you envision, believe, put yourself in the mindset your already there it will happen
     
  19. Unread #10 - Sep 28, 2017 at 3:51 PM
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    Why all of you manbabies (WANTrepreneurs) never make any money

    Yes and no

    Self belief isn't bad, but living life with an imaginary mindset isn't some magical way of becoming successful. It's just what self help guru's want you to believe
     
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    Why all of you manbabies (WANTrepreneurs) never make any money

    Saw this the day it was posted but I couldn't be bothered to follow up on it.

    It's all accurate, but it's also worth saying that it takes a lot of effort to get to a good position and maintain it. There is no real "You're in a good spot, now you get to relax a bit", so if you're hating the effort in the first few months then you either get used to it or quit (like I did). There really is no in-between.
     
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    Yeah very valid point, thanks for the addition

    Overall I make more money than I ever have in the past, but in some areas I make less as I didn't maintain them as a primary focus
     
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    But I do make money. ;( Cute thread, but you state things as absolutes when they are opinions at best with many assumptions and all of your arguments are pretty much based on empirical evidence.
     
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    cashiers make money too
     
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    Cashiers don't wear Gucci and earn 20-30k a month sitting on their asses drinking wine while at home earning passive income via a video game.
     
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    5) Ego-driven narrow minded people

    There is a lot of people here who for some reason try to act like they're someone they are not. They add 0's to the end of what they actually make to try and impress people. They are again in cloud cuckoo land which I actually find quite sad as one day reality is going to hit hard on these said people, or reality will never hit and they will spend the rest of their lives trying to be somebody they never will be.

    These people misinterpret business as something only the alpha-intelligent do. They think they are better than everybody else because they are making some money online instead of having to work for min-wage. Although this is credible to some degree, in most cases this is short-term game mentality and in 5-10 years time or even sooner, will not be the case.

    I could write 10,000 words on whats toxic about these people but lets simplify it. If you've not made any changes in the past 6 months to expand your income, what makes you think you will in the next 6 years? Be real, if you're 20 years old, do you really want to be doing what you're doing when you're 30 when the income is going to be much smaller? No of course not, so as I mentioned in the previous section, stop trying to make a perfect plan, just take action and embrace change.

    A finishing remark for these people. Do you really think people respect you, or do you think they're mocking you?

    You will have some pathetic naive fanboys who believe whatever you tell them, but while you're putting on an act, your competitors (including ones you don't even know about) are working hard, grinding to thrive, and you'll be shocked and disappointed when you hear about them being super successful in the future, while you're still in the same place, putting on an act to fulfill your insecure ego.
     
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    cant relate to anything other than the title of that section :)
    As you see I also very rarely post here so that already makes most of the text invalid. I do rs for work not for the community or a social factor. Was just giving an opinion on OPs opinion piece.

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    This is so true.
     
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    Why all of you manbabies (WANTrepreneurs) never make any money

    Definitely hit the nail on the head. Been there and it certainly sucks, but glad it woke me up.


    I guess you're still at the newcomer's stage.
     
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    This hyped me up so much I'm about to just become a millionaire over night. Thank you for that final push mate.
     
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