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Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

Discussion in 'Denied Suggestions' started by Loobszyy, Jul 24, 2017.

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Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

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  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Peaceful1RS

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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    I said it is only 'a' way of bumping a thread. Not the only way.
    Id still deny because who gives a fuck. It's a bump. Get over it lol
     
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  2. Wonderland

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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    I gave you a hypothetical question to see where you stand and you didn't even answer it properly. Post count is the driving force behind the opposition of the idea so I'm not surprised to see why you, as well as other people would be up in arms about it.
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    I really didn't have time to type an essay response for such a simply, yet-to-be-denied suggestion..

    No, the button should not be mandatory. If the manual bumping didn't give post count, then I along with many others would have like 20 post count. There is literally no justification to make it mandatory other than a few bandits rallying together with signs telling the staff to do it.
    There is no positive outcome to it for anyone. The bump button will be utilised by people who want to utilise it. Manual bumping will continue to be utilised by the majority of us whom want extra post count.
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    An essay isn't needed to answer that question. Just a yes or no with a fair reason behind it would suffice. The market is used to buy, sell and trade goods. Post count isn't something that should be gained effortlessly in the market while it being the contrary outside of it.

    Here are some positives for making the button mandatory:

    1. No moderation or policing is necessary to combat over bumping threads.

    2. The market looks cleaner.

    3. It would be easier to see posts, most likely offers or questions being posted on the threads without it being buried under numerous bump posts.

    4. Gaining post count would be sought for outside the market, meaning the community as a whole grows.

    5. More Sythe Gold would be dumped as a result of the button being the only option.

    As of now, there is no point of using the button unless you're using the feature to bump 2 hours earlier than you normally could, and even then it's value is negatively impacted by being able to gain post count by manually bumping a thread. I just think this is a modern direction which would benefit the site as a whole.
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    1. No moderation or policing is necessary to combat over bumping threads.

    - The Market will always need Moderation. Always. No matter what. There is already an 8-hour timer with no way around it.


    2. The market looks cleaner.

    - It really doesn't. It's all the same. You don't see bump posts when looking at "the market"


    3. It would be easier to see posts, most likely offers or questions being posted on the threads without it being buried under numerous bump posts.

    - The offers posted are usually if not always quoted as a C/O on the OP, that part is redundant.
    The questions being answered part is really also redundant. No one posts to ask questions unless they're newcomers. 99% of people will just PM the OP. This isn't enough to justify such a huge change to the marketplace.


    4. Gaining post count would be sought for outside the market, meaning the community as a whole grows.

    - Even if they removed it, I wouldn't bother posting in sections I don't care for, just for post count. I feel as if majority of people would be the same. So this will really not help the community "grow".

    5. More Sythe Gold would be dumped as a result of the button being the only option.

    - Sythe Gold is used for a lot of things. A far amount of people even accept SG as form of payment in some places. Dumping it would just reduce the fluctuation of SG and therefore, eventually, make it pretty useless and worthless.
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    Replied to your post within the quote. Made it more visible for you.
     
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    Bump button should leave a mini postbit to say this thread was bumped by _ on _
     
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    I think that having this along with removing sythe gold from bumping is the best way to go. Make both sides happy
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    That would be nice.
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    Because one of the main benefits of doing this is that it prevents people from racking up post count from bumps, but many people have already racked up post count from bumps, so unless we are cleaning the slate we aren't taking full advantage of this benefit
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    But what is wrong with relying on bumps for post count? It's literally how majority of the people on this site gain post count and its not really like we can abuse it when there is an 8 hour post timer..
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    Id agree with this suggestion if the bump button provided post count. Otherwise there is absolutely no reason for us not to be able to manual bump.
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    One argument is that people shouldn't care about post count at all, no one should be relying on anything to build post count because there is no point in having a higher post count
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    Yes but it is still seen as a goal for many Sythe members. Why remove another incentive to post, do we want less activity in the community?
    Post count is sometimes a sign of trust, too. While it's definitely not something to base full trust on, if someone has 4k post count, I'll be looking at there profile to see if i can trust them. If someone has 20, id be more likely to avoid them.

    I don't think manual bumping should be removed unless post count is added to the button.
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    I am the wrong person to argue this with as I have already posted I do not support making a bump button mandatory
     
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    I understand, I was just giving you my opinion/response. I hope this doesn't pass :)
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    So we should just let it be? I think that's doing more harm than good in the long run.
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    I think it is too big of a change and the benefits don't warrant the change
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    Quality should always be worth changing for. Eventually you will see accounts made just for bumping posts accumulate over 20k posts, which at this pace won't take that long. From a quality and aesthetic perspective, it isn't all that tasteful.
     
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    Should be the Bump-Button Mandatory ?

    Personally, I think the bump button should be a requirement as opposed to making a post. Since it's the first time being implemented on the site in over a decade of being around, I don't think any punishment should be issued for a minimum of 3 months. However, warnings can be issued worth 0 points as to deter users from spamming "bump" on multiple market threads and inform said users of the button being available. While I understand posting "bump" on threads is a way to show presence or advertise updates, new rates for a business, etc., all can be listed within the thread's OP. In having the bump spam fiesta reduced over time, the quality of threads will increase dramatically and focus heavily on a market thread's activity, success, and reputation of the OP, which are three of the most important things people look for when looking to do business online.

    I had been looking at this thread off and on since it was created, but I didn't have a chance to post my thoughts immediately. In any event, I hope my comments help to some degree.
     
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