Creation of the universe

Hello,


Well ive always been interested in the creation of the universe.

I somewhat believe in the big bang theory because it makes the most sence to me, kinda :þ.

Well anyways, the big bang theory says all the matter in the universe was compacted so tightly it exploded.

Well where did this matter come from?

If matter cannot be created, then nothing exists... right?

Discuss.

 

before the big bang, time did not exist, the big bang was what caused time.
Without time there is an infinite amount of "time"(yes, this is hard to understand) for something to happen, therefore something did happen.

google it and you will get your answers.

 

Ive always thought of time as a human concept.


Something did happen, because as far as i know i do exist, but something MUSTVE been created from nothing at one point, right?

 

If you believe M theory, then the explanation is that 2 universes "collided" so to speak, creating this one.
at the same time(remember, time doesnt exist at this point), this one collided to form the 2 that first collided to form us

 

Personally, i dont believe in the M theory. Its all a bit to radical for me.

Im going to sleep, night everybody

 

Where did those two universes come from?

 

This is mostly a opionionated subject. These are all theory's that cannot be proven 100%. I personally believe in the big bang theory. I have studied astonomy for a long time. Whatever theory you believe you should research it. I well be starting a post on astronomy here soon.(sorry to advertise) Thanks guys

 

big bang theory is the most logical explanation.

 

about the two universes collided...

a universe means "one plane"

How can 2 UNIverses collide? There is a single universe.

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Ive been asking some people, and i guess the only explaination science can give is that it was always here, no matter how much it defys logic >.<

 

All observations suggest an expanding universe... which means the universe was at one point smaller and closer together.

I'm also concerned about the holes in big bang... but it's the best model so far, imo.

 

You are referring to Hubble's Theory that the universe is expanding at aprox the speed of light. His theory seems to be most logical because it can be proven, to an extent, that the universe is ~13bill light years to it's end. On a side note, this relates to Hubble's conclusion that the Universe is 13 bill years old.

 

Actually, all observations show that all galaxies are flying apart from each other. That does not necessarily mean that the fabric of the universe itself is expanding. Of course, if by the universe, you mean the totality of all things that exist, then you are correct.

 

i notice a trend of naivety and misinformation on sythe which i could only contribute to age.
however i believe shredderbeam is older then me, and even he seems quite misinformed... so i suppose there would have to be some other explanation.

From what i can see, all people in this thread only have a very BASIC understanding of the big bang theory. i will answer all your posts individually, and in reverse order(from last to first).

Shredderbeam: not much i can say here...

jebckr: observations point out that the universe is actually 93B light years across... please do some research before posting. that is not to say... that the universe is 93b years old, but that the SPACE in between matter is expanding, like filling a balloon with air.

whereisgod: you are right.

imjustdownloadin: actually, physicists tend to agree that there are multiple universes, see M theory, there are a few differing theories however, including one which states that for every possible quantum fluctuation, a new universe is created(i.e. every possibility something that can happen, has happened, but has spontaneously created a different universe where that plays out)
time is relative, so 2 universes could be created along different time lines, it would be much easier to explain with a visual representation, but i CBF getting MS paint out and drawing one... do your research before posting please.

ryder: right

a867(lost of numbers here): right.

shredderbeam: please read my post again "carefully" and do your research before posting.

 

And that is what I mean, the known universe.

 

The only post that I can see that I questioned was the one where you stated that the universe came from the collision of two other universes. Now, what was I saying that was naive/misinformed?

 

my post regarding naivety/misinformation was a general post, however yours in particular was not a matter of misinformation, but rather that you havnt researched the subject enough to understand the concept of what i was trying to say.

As i said in the post, read it again "carefully"

 

Well, from what I can gather, you said that, before time, two universes collided to create our one, and our one collided to create those two, am I correct?

 

Yes... i explained it as simply as i could, but that is the general gist of it... our one collided with yet another one(which, in itself, was the product of another collided universe, etc etc ad infinitum) to create those ones.
when you learn the theory properly, you learn that all the universes are created by each other, but that they are all the same universe, so there is still only one universe, but there are also many.