Really Complicated Scam- Need Advice/Help

Also please provide the screenshots you asked from the people you hired to play on my account. From what I've seen in the screenshots you have some random/useless pictures and some duplicates please remove them. Also, if you could provide chat logs to support that:
- they were doing a hand done service
- they provided screenshots
- you were responsible in screening them and made sure they wouldn't compromise my account.
- where you notified me to change my password after hiring them


Also can you clarify what you meant/respond to these?
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@riskfighter DID YOU NOT READ WHAT I POSTED? OR YOU DID AND NOW PLAYING STUPID?

 

Okay just tried helping you out so you could verify everything clearly, as an organization tool for what you posted. It's more fair for you to post specific screenshots under each quest entry, or organize your pictures better, than to make Azie or me look through them and verify it FOR YOU. As you've already demonstrated by lying and denying in the face of proof, try and input effort of your own instead of relying on others and stalling the case as a result. The use of brain cells are much appreciated!

 

Remember that you're posting screenshots to prove YOU did the task, and NOT someone else. This organization method means we can identify what you did (more importantly what you did not, as you can leave entries blank for quests/ skills you didn't do).

Perhaps make a list of your own, corresponding with screenshots in their appeared order, for quickness. Just a suggestion, don't get mad!

Mark also quest experience you received from the quests, as a timeline/life of your work on the account to account for missed levels
(Marking start level, xp from quest, end level).

Responding to those screenshots I posted would clear things up. Copy/quote them, and respond under each entry to explain your perspective.

 

In the process of getting opinions from staff members. Due to this report being longer than all the Harry Potter books combined, your patience is appreciated.

Don't post anything and wait until a decision is made.

 

@Azie Any new updates regarding this?

 

I will post the final decision tomorrow. I was away for the weekend so there was a delay.

 

@Azie alright....

 

40% of the cash will go to @Marcellus1404 and 60% will be refunded back to @riskfighter

 

@Azie Bro what??????? Sorry for my choice of words but that is a careless and stupid decision.....
All my points presented could be debated, and theres proof of 70% + of the work, so how would I be paid for 40%?
And that's not even taking into consideration the way this guy acted, and the permission I was given!!
Do you realize I spent the hours into the account while he sit back and watch the things go wrong?
PLEASE JUSTIFY YOUR DECISION!!!!! OR RECONSIDER IT, Because theres no way I can see how 40% is fair.....

 

Justifying my decision:
- There were a few quests not completed
- Certain terms were not adhered to (password changes etc)
- Account was hacked

Although you reimbursed lost value the fact that it was hacked shows negligence.

- Service was delayed by weeks
- Account was banned for macro (will verify again)

This was consulted with an admin.

 

what the account was banned?

 

@Azie Theres Major errors in your decision.....
First of all based on the account skills and quests done we can say 50% of the work consisted of quests and 50% of skilling, however since skilling was done via the questing the percentage of the "quests percentage" of the entire package completed increases right? ontop of that I showed you screenshots of a lot of skilling done, so even if you rule in favor of ryan of the accusations that I bought skills (there were not accusations of more than 5 skills btw) this is what? a mere 5-10% of the entire package?
Secondly 3 quests were not done, and once again this is only if you ruled in his favour that the agreement included those quests....
Thridly I told him explicitly not to enter the account until this was over, he didn't listen and I mentioned it to you previously that he wasn't adhering to it, go through the post you'd see it! so I shouldn't be responsible for that....
Fourthly it was suppose to finish on the 17th (14 days after the 3rd) it was finished on the 22nd (5 days later not weeks)
And yeah i'll accept responsibility for the hacking, but what ive mentioned above, is a mere 10% of the entire package( quests not completed and skills bought [and this is only assuming he was right on every accusation, and you ruled everything in his favor}).......
So theres no way another 50% should be taken out for the hacking alone when he didn't exactly lose anything.....
And was he not also blameworthy for waiting until the last minute to say something????
So obviously I still don't believe you made a good decision, and I should atleast be paid for the work I presented proof for and a "fair" amount be taken out for my negligence concerning the hacking......
And also some should be deducted for his Negligence!

 

My postition:
I think Marcellus should be banned or given a severe punishment, and paid nothing. Over the sheer volume of the case, his lying and dishonesty has been dismissed. If possible, (since the admin is another, objective, outside opinion) could the people you consulted with make an argument for Marcellus being banned or not, on the basis of his dishonesty and lying? I understand the innocent until proven guilty, but that was breached when I had to provide screenshots of my conversations with a worker Marcellus hired, only on the WHIM that we were working together and it cost me hours. Look, I'm trying to be reasonable but I'm a CASUAL sythe user. This isn't something I want to 'factor in my operating costs'. I was wronged, clearly, and put a lot of effort into something that didn't really need it.
I want the following to be considered and addressed. Keep in mind the majority of things are in my 2nd long post with evidence and has yet to be responded to.

A point he has made: that the responsibility of the accounts status IF he hired someone is on him, and should it be banned or he didn't take the responsible measures, he sacrificed his work. He said he accepted that responsibility and he has proved he was irresponsible and he cannot prove he was responsible either.
He has argued that he responsibly ensured everything went well and that it did. This is delusion that hasn't been addressed.
1) account hack- 4/20/17. This happened, as I've reasonably demonstrated, because of a rogue hiree. He denied this at all times and gave no indication he hired anyone until I asked AFTER, nor has he given his conversations with the people I accused him of hiring to see if he gave them my account details, whether he asked for screenshots, etc.
Multiple times he told me he worked on the account personally, when questioned specifically he responded with/ like this, that he personally was working on my account. (Gyazo - 7238dac9bed0a4234e4899f34d0aea50.png, Gyazo - 9880095eb48062ba6cf2d7fd6d001a94.png,
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Note the last screenshot where he shares (in trust/cluelessly) that he thinks it was 'someone who did a service for me' that hacked MY account.
- he said his SKYPE account was hacked by someone he knew IRL and hammered this point dozens of times
- he says in that 3rd screenshot (I've repeated this so many times), that HE HIMSELF thinks it was someone who did a service for him, and he has denied this every single time I bring this up.

So Marcellus gave his skype details to someone he hired? That doesn't make sense. His story falls apart here, and he hasn't been honest with this at all. I think we all can reasonably conclude I was hacked by someone he hired, and not by some imaginary irl friend. He 'accepts responsibility' in his last post, but still makes no mention of admitting that it was someone he hired who hacked him.

Now what I wanted his voice on from the beginning was, why did he insist he did the work himself (when I asked throughout the service) and now he says 5% was done by others? Can you list the proof in those screenshots you've given to even prove this? CLEAR exaggeration and dishonesty here. I asked you to show how thorough you were in getting who you hired, so you can establish responsibility when you hired people (as opposed to hiring the cheapest person you can find knowing your risking my account not yours). You haven't done this, or shown the screenshots from people you hired, or explained why you thought it was a good idea to keep the password same for everyone all the time, or why you lied so much.

So far, in all the evidence I've given for him to respond, it took him WEEKS to provide jumbled screenshots that are clearly missing A TON of quests. He's contradicted and lied, along with shifting his story (the hacking) and each lies means I have to go to search and compile evidence, just to get ignored. Then, after getting ignored I get accused of being friends with someone he hired and spent hours posting screenshots for that. To top it off he accuses me of negligence, when he hasn't taken care of my account security at all. How is this fair? He's taking advantage of people not looking at all the evidence I post. Basically because I'm trying to be thorough and meticulous, he's being let off the hook. And him not being either thorough or meticulous, is not banned.

Meanwhile, he hasn't addressed all the missing holes in his story, or shown himself to be at all responsible, and he wants compensation for the work he has proof for, minus a fair amount for negligence, for the total amount to exchange hands. Let's sub your work for x, negligence for y, and total amount for z.

Okay Marc you have screenies for what, 70 cook lvls, 30 herb, 50 fming, and maybe 40-60 quest points, like 50 useless pictures that show nothing useful, and some slayer levels, among some other stuff. Let's call this x. You will be paid for x.


Now negligence. You can't and won't show you've been responsible while searching and communicating for people to work on my account. Youre missing a ton of screenshots. You've demonstrated, by never telling me to change my password, and lying about being the only person to work on my account, that you allowed people to bot while also lying and scamming me about this. As a result, you've wasted a ton of my time just so I could tell you what you already know, that you deserve payment for what you did but should be paid nothing for what happened as a result of hiring other people!
Let's take this in two parts:
The first part, you let other people work on the account while misleading me into thinking it was only you who worked on it. I think this amount (the stuff you can't account for+negligence) is equal or greater than x, the work you should be compensated for.
The second part, you wasted so much of my time by being delusional and repeating the same arguments with.no new evidence. Have you responded to the screenshots of my second post yet? (The answer is nope). You responded to ONE of DOZENS, and ONLY to something that had to do with you being SHADY. You glazed over concrete evidence and failed to provide your own.
Your screenshots from the people you hired. Where are they? You didn't require them though you said you would get them. This is more negligence.

Now that the account is banned and y is already more than x, does this mean you should pay me? I'm willing to equate x and y if you agree what you did deserves a ban or another form of serious punishment.

As a side note, yeah it's not a lot of money and it's irrelevant in the long run but I don't want to waste the time I already invested for him to walk off freely and do this to other people. If there wasn't so much volume in time I'd forget about it but it feels no different than donating to a criminal who made harm on me, to make harm on others.

 

Also, dude... if you're going to lie, at least be consistent ...? You have '70%+' of proof, but only 5% was done by others?

Part of my 'accusations' are that, I could only find reasonable evidence for '5' (im quoting you) things which amount to '5-10%'. Your proven dishonest and won't tell the truth about anything, so how will anyone know the real amount of work you did/ who you hired if that evidence is on your skype, which you won't share? You have 75% of screenshots? Why is this number not 100%, after all, you were getting screenshots from the people you hired.

Let's be clear, 40% is a curious amount to be awarded.
Rephrasing your emotion in my own words 'do you not see all the hours I had to sit and wait for nothing to be done, all while paying this guy who got other people to bot and work for him while pretending to do it himself, then telling me my account is safe'

At the end of the day your negligence caused a ton of ips and bots on my account, the evidence which you can't disprove AND can't prove you acted responsibly. Either way you've provided nothing towards this, other than lying denying, and story changing.

P.s. Are you still here Marcellus, making the same arguments? What's going on in your brain? How is your thought process in any way logical or taking in all the facts. Please continue in conveniently ignoring your own ignorance.

 

@riskfighter I can see clearly you have issuses keeping up with me......
1. Concerning the hack- when someone is hacked do you know exactly who hacked you? The answer is no! After much thought and investigating what transpired I came to the conclusion that it was the "irl friend" that accessed my skype, that why I accepted responsibility for this....
2. You mentioned that my story is not consistent? Well I clearly stated that I was "accused of hiring about 5% of the work" and with the quest left out if he ruled that: "I did hire the persons I was accused of and I was supposed to do those 3 quests then that's only 10% of the entire package" understood?
3.You mentioned that I presented 70% of screenshots and my other 10% I mentioned only adds up to 80% and once again my story doesn't add up? I clearly mentioned in the previous post that runeloader didn't take the screenshots of the quests done, only the levels gained hence the mission 20%, understood now? however I did show through our skype conversation/updates that I did do this 20% of quests!
4. Account banned and its somehow my fault? I clearly told you not to enter the account until this was sorted remember? I also mentioned it to azie that you didn't adhere to this, so if somehow it got banned its now your fault, because I cant be held responsibe!
5. I only presented screenshots of the work I did so far, hence in my last few posts there wasn't screenshots of the skills that were bought, although I do have them!

 

The decision is final and @Marcellus1404 I am really starting to get annoyed with your extremely poor business practices. There was a case against you a few weeks ago in which I had to handle a partial refund. The decision is final and will not be changing.