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  1. Unread #1 - Apr 20, 2017 at 9:10 PM
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    Scammer's profile link: ---- ( He refuses to give me sythe name)
    http://i.imgur.com/NSUr93h.png
    Explanation of the trade: User purchased Quest Cape + Void + Fire Cape (1 Account) + 99 RC + 99 Hunter (2ND Account)
    How they scammed: They have not "scammed" but they claim to be contacting staff about interaction but refused to provide me with proof or post a sythe link to their profile. This service took place offsite on Tribot.
    Proof that it's their Skype:
    http://i.imgur.com/NkfCKRI.png

    My TOS at this time came with a standard clause representing a self-protection clause stating that I do now allow users access to their account during service or their service would be void if said interaction occurred.
    For this particular service, I removed this term.
    I replaced it with another self-protection clause if the accounts were to in any way shape or context receive botting bans it would lead to the service paid for void and no refund was given.
    On my first day of working for the client, I got him roughly 5 hunter levels from my memory (8-13) on one of the accounts (this was supposed to be quest cape account). The next day I find out that the user was botting on the account admittedly and this within itself violated my TOS. None the less I decided to ignore this first bot ban. He created a new account to get quest cape on and because it was a level 3 he agreed to pay the same but for barrows gloves quested + a few extra quests instead. I worked on this account for some time , then his friend who the account was for ; said he wanted to play on the offtime. He also botted on the account (admitted to me) and it got a 2-day ban. After the 2 day ban, I finished his the service on the barrows gloves account completely.
    Now on (luka's 99 hunter 99 rc account order) account he decided to bot this after I had got it 50+ hunter on it. He also decided he wanted to bot crafting during off time which rendered his account banned for 2 days also. I ignored this also and he wanted to switch to a new botting platform to continue botting with my knowledge I also told him at this time that this is violating the TOS and that if the account is banned again I will not continue service with a refund but I did agree to create a number of scripts for him.


    Luka lied to me approx 3 times about botting on the accounts and is not entitled to any sort of refund.
    50% of the service as paid for at the agreed rate is complete. He never paid me the other half so as far as I am concerned I did more then I had to to make the user happy. None of this trade was transacted on sythe at all but the user says he wishes to dispute it here.

    I believe I currently owe Luka 30M for the scripts I have not created be he is refusing to collect it at this time.




    Outside of his dispute of wanting any sort of refund

    He paid for 2 orders

    Questcape fire cape and full vid

    99 rc and 99 hunter

    we agreed to have both of these done at the same cost

    currently his quest firecape and full void was reduced to him getting bans and going against tos so barrows gloves 70/70/70 and some extra quest were compeleted in stead. ( user agreed to this)

    User chose to pay what he did for the service at hand and is responsible for what he decided to spend his money on.

    Currently 50% of service is done and 50% payment recieved as far as I am concerned no dispute is possible but since he is threatening me i created this
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:18 PM
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    The Service took place on your website, actually Tanged. Which is ironically now deleted?
     
  5. Unread #3 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:18 PM
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    All our correspondences up until the deposit was made via Skype, which I will provide to the mods when instructed.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:19 PM
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    technically tribot I had a site yes but you contacted me via tribot and we made deal via skype. eitherway i sent all the proof to @Mootrucks
     
  9. Unread #5 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:20 PM
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    Also, due to the extent of the order, you did excuse your TOS, including allowing me to play on the account considering the ETA of 30-40 days, which has been missed by over 60 days since payment.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:21 PM
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    I'm finished going back and forward with you, I will now leave this with the officials.

    As far as I'm aware the trust and every mutual friendship we had is completely tarnished.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:22 PM
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    You agreed botting would void your service with no refund and I decide to continue regardless. I already did more then required.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:23 PM
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    I dont care about friendship this is business you broke your contract (agreement) with me and now you will live with the penalties of you breaking your agreement.
    Also after speaking with video this sale has nothing to do with sythe .
     
  17. Unread #9 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:25 PM
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    I used Sythe Vouches and many various platforms to distinguish your legitamacy. I'm not denying you have partially fulfilled the order, as mentioned in my thread:

    Service Agreed:

    1. 40-99 Runecrafting (fast method)
    2. 1-99 Hunter (fast method)
    3. 1650 Pest Control Points (CB LVL 100 Boat)
    4. X2 Fire Cape (low level +$10)
    5. 1-70 Att/Str/Def
    6. Barrows gloves (1-176 QP without Reqs)

    Total Balance: £2,800 (£1,400 Paid) 50% Deposit

    Service Completed:

    1-64 Hunter (230K exp)
    168 Pest Control Points
    x2 Fire Cape (low level +$10)
    1-70 Att/Str/Def
    Barrows Gloves (1-176 QP without Reqs)


    The Service completed was quoted for roughly 400m. So where does that lead the remaining £1,100 Tanged?
     
  19. Unread #10 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:27 PM
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    Sorry the deposit is £1,482.00.

    The service carried out was calculated at £400.
     
  21. Unread #11 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:28 PM
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    You guys lied to me and broke TOS and in exchange for also having to start from scratch on the service you guys agreed( of your own ability) to have barrows gloves + a few quests over the quest cape.
    I dont care what other scrubs quote you on the service.
    I provided you a quote for a service that you chose to break. you violated your TOS so you agreed to a deduction of service. then you violated your service again.


    On the first ban before I had completed anything due to what you agreed to your not entitled to anything.
    but I went out my way to complete other task even though as far as our agreement is concerned your service is voided.

    I will re say none of this transaction took place on sythe and if any staff should deal with it should be tribot.
     
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  23. Unread #12 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:34 PM
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    Excuse me?

    Where on earth are you bringing this information about entitlement to my deposit when you didn't even complete the service we had initially agreed on?

    You mean to say, you will now walk away with £1,082.00 based on upon your TOS that shouldn't even apply to my account since you had not carried out 1% of the service.

    You portraying this 50% deposit was just for the 70 melee stats and quest cape, is absolutely ridiculous. If you are now changing the agreement and trying to charge me £1,482.00 for a quest cape, fire cape and 70 melee stats, that in itself is a scam.
     
  25. Unread #13 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:36 PM
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    You agreed to pay a certain amount for a service with an agreement on a agreement you wouldnt bot. You botted rendering your service void. This happened months ago.




    If you agree to pay me 100$ for me to get you 15 wc then I do it.
    you cant make a dispute a week later saying you want a refund.
    You are a human with control over your own money and made a choice to pay for the service at hand.


    So far you have paid me 50% of what you agreed to pay for the total order.
    I am not asking a single cent from you.
    I am asking to be completely done with you in every way possible.
    You agreed that instead of the quest cape you would get barrows gloves.
    You made this choice not me.
    You choose to pay that amount for what you got.
    I take no responsibility for your choices what YOU MAKE


    YOU DECIDED TO LIE TO ME IN THE BEGINNING OF THE SERVICE BY BOTTING BEHIND MY BACK. CREATED A SECOND ACCOUNT BOTTED THAT BEHIND MY BACK TOLD ME WHEN IT GOT BANNED. THEN PHILLIP WHO OWNS THE SECOND ACCOUNT BOTTED HIS ACCOUNT (QUEST CAPE) ACCOUNT BEHIND MY BACK ALSO.
     
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  27. Unread #14 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:39 PM
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    You only did 200k exp hunter, which I'm happy to pay for.

    Other than this, you didn't finish my pest control / 40-99 RC, you technically worked for 400M out of 1500M.

    You didn't start any service before my account was banned. I just warned you that my account I had in mind for the service got banned and that I would need some more time to get ready for the service.

    Refer to the skype conversation from November 2016 - today.
     
  29. Unread #15 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:41 PM
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    I would totally understand if you had finished the service we agreed, but the fact of the matter is you are paid for work that hasn't been fulfilled, as we've agreed upon on multiple occasions.

    You avoiding me on skype isn't going to delete my coversation history, its all archived and I've screen shotted every last message from 1 week before payment to date.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:41 PM
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    I read the whole skype chat. you agreed to pay 50% for quest cape + fire cape + void. I dont care what other servicers quoted you.
     
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    Tell phil who owns the second account in your order to make sythe to both of you lied and botted the accounts and for this you agreed for less service at the same rate.

    you can send all our agreements to any of the staff members on the forum is 100% clear you voliated your tos and also you got the 50% you decided to spend your money on.
     
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  35. Unread #18 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:49 PM
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    I never paid you for a contract. I paid you for your time, and a deposit so you knew I was not a time waster. You and I both know this very well and I have Skype messages to prove so.

    40-99 RC takes roughly 230-250 hours of nonstop tedious lava runecrafting
    1-99 Hunter takes roughly 100-120 hours
    Just to put into perspective.

    So for you to charge me the initial deposit for just the NMZ stats and barrows gloves is laughable, quite frankly.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:50 PM
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    - @KingCobra
    agreed to pay approx 2960 pounds for 99 RC / 99 Hunter Quest Cape and F cape+ Void on both.
    - @KingCobra agreed that botting these accounts would render his service void with no refund
    - @KingCobra got more then 3 account banned during service time botting it behind the servicers back( @Tanged )
    -@KingCobra at time of paying agreed that 99 RC / 99 Hunter were to be carried in the same value of weight as the quest cape
    - I was paid 1480$ for half the service.
    - While I was completing users quest cape the oo of the account he paid to have it serviced for decided to bot on this account
    - account received a ban. In exchanged for going agianst tos a second time user agreed to a reduction of service which would be barrows gloves from scratch + 70/70/70.
    - this account was completed with barrows gloves + 70/70/70 for scratch
    - this is accounting for only 2 of the original tos violation
    - in end user paid 1480 pounds for barrows gloves and 70/70/70 due to them violating TOS 3 times each time the user agreed to said reduction and infact offered it instead.
    User chose to pay the rate for the services provided
    User chose to break tos multiple times
    I chose to continue service after he botted and got banned the second time
    I am not following thru with the service since after user broke it our agreement thrice.

    all bans above mentioned are admitted by @KingCobra
     
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  39. Unread #20 - Apr 20, 2017 at 10:51 PM
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    Where is our contract please?
     
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